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13 minutes ago, PJ Power said:

Wasn't the change made to let go of the arms done after this infamous Pedigree move?

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That would make a lot of sense - though I'm sure I remember Triple H doing the "Original Pedigree" far later than this GIF. Can't have helped, though.

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WWE have a video on YouTube "First time Superstars hit their iconic finishers" and the pedigree vid is that one above. So that one came well before the Warrior one and isn't the reason for any change.

 

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From my understanding, the jobber in that Pedigree GIF thought it was going to be a piledriver, hence him lifting his legs, jumping with the move and pointing his head down. Imagine the WWF landscape if Hunter Hearst Helmsley decided to use the Tiger Driver '98 as his finisher.

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31 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

WWE have a video on YouTube "First time Superstars hit their iconic finishers" and the pedigree vid is that one above. So that one came well before the Warrior one and isn't the reason for any change.

 

That massive pedigree is from an episode of Superstars (#504) from 28th May 1996 against Marty Garner. I remember it vividly because it’s the same place they had to do the do-over of In Your House: Beware of Dog because of a power outage and I always remember the entrance being in full view of the hardcam.

That WWE video also seems to have forgotten every time that HHH did the pedigree from the year previous

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IIRC Stone Cold was the first guy to have his arms released in the Pedigree. I remember as a teenager complaining becauseit didn't look as good.

Looking back I assume it was cos of Austin's neck injuries?

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I dont know if it was, because Stone Cold only took a few if I recall. Triple H started using a Rude Awakening on Austin as his finish around late 2000. The Rock is the one I remember having the arms released, because the Rock used to love doing the over the top sell when he hit the mat.

Kane used to take the worst Pedigrees.

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When I was at my most wrestling obsessed aged 9-10-11 and was begging borrowing and stealing any tapes or other merch I could get my hands on, I remember spotting a Wrestlemania 1 tape in a charity shop and thinking I'd got my hands on the holy grail. Watching it later it felt like it came from a different world, given the dark ring, poor lighting and the lack of ring music, it was almost unrecognisable from the product I was used to watching every week.

What's mad is that it must only have been 10 years or so old by then (1994), which is almost the length of time between that famous (and short lived) January 4 2010 "Monday Night War" and now, which honestly feels like yesterday.

Why does it seem like everything seemed to change so much in days of yore, yet everything seems to stand still these days? Since the end of the Attitude Era it almost seems like every WWE PPV just merges into the next, whereas before then I can still pretty much recite the results of most major events to a tee.

 

 

 

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They showed a clip from the 2009 Kofi Kingston - Randy Orton feud on TV this week and it just made me think - it was pretty much a decade ago and the set would have been basically the same, Orton still has pretty much exactly the same look/gear/music/gimmick...

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16 minutes ago, garynysmon said:

Why does it seem like everything seemed to change so much in days of yore, yet everything seems to stand still these days? Since the end of the Attitude Era it almost seems like every WWE PPV just merges into the next, whereas before then I can still pretty much recite the results of most major events to a tee.

Think it’s just a psychological thing. A length or time (a day, a week, a month, etc) seems much longer when you’re a kid because it’s a larger percentage of your time alive. As you get older, they just become shorter portions of your time alive and why it feels like “days are getting shorter” or “the year is going so fast this year”.

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Whilst true, you watch highlights from a film like The Social Network (2010) or Liverpool v United from 2009 and it’s like a different world (kits, managers, players, in some cases the look of the stadiums) - the lack of care in updating the look and feel of things is a huge reason I’ve disinvested in the product tbh 

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I started watching WWF in 1990 and it felt so different by 1993, then 1993 seemed so different to 95. When 97 rolled around it looked like a whole different show compared to what i started watching visually.

WCW nitro completly changed up there sets atleast 3 times in the few years they were on the air. The first was obviously their best but atleast it gave the shows a new vibe.

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8 hours ago, Your Fight Site said:

Think it’s just a psychological thing. A length or time (a day, a week, a month, etc) seems much longer when you’re a kid because it’s a larger percentage of your time alive. As you get older, they just become shorter portions of your time alive and why it feels like “days are getting shorter” or “the year is going so fast this year”.

Nah, wrestling just actually is changing at a much slower pace 

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21 hours ago, Accident Prone said:

From my understanding, the jobber in that Pedigree GIF thought it was going to be a piledriver, hence him lifting his legs, jumping with the move and pointing his head down. Imagine the WWF landscape if Hunter Hearst Helmsley decided to use the Tiger Driver '98 as his finisher.

Yeah it was on one of the omega docs. Cham Pain/Marty Garner. He was quite badly hurt if i recall as well

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