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3 hours ago, The King Of Swing said:

Sure there were stories about him having heat. Think he was dragged in front of "wrestlers court" on multiple occasions.

I believe one story alleged that he was talked into complaining to Eddie Guerrero about him using the camel clutch. Unknown to Hassan, a relative of Eddie (his father I think) is credited as the originator of the move.

Yep. Bruce Prichard went into detail about it on Something to Wrestle With. Kurt Angle told him to speak to Eddie as a rib, Eddie explained that his Dad invented the move and Hassan, who legitimately didn't know, immediately apologised. That got turned into him demanding Eddie stop using it.

Another one was when they were running late so Jerry Brisco grabbed Hassan's bags and carried them off the tour bus, despite his protests. "The Boys" twisted that into "Mohammed Hassan thinks he's so good that he forced Jerry Brisco to carry his bags."

Basically, they were just looking for excuses to treat him like shit.

2 hours ago, Grecian said:

There's also the bullying stuff in Justin Roberts' book. JBL is named, which will probably be a shocking revelation to all. 

Aye. That was brutal. Benoit certainly comes off as a complete fucking psychopath. Guy would attack Roberts in public, for no reason, and then a few hours later go "Hey man. How's your Dad?"

Anyway, the thing that gives Massaro's affidavit credibility to me is the tone. She doesn't come across as being bitter or spiteful. It reads like someone who is genuinely hurt and confused and wants things to change. She's not Billy Jack Haynes.

Interesting that WWE's statement focuses solely on them being unaware of the rape and ignores everything else. No acknowledgement at all that she was put in matches with very little training, or physical situations against Doctor's orders, both of which are pretty much impossible to deny.

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I cancelled. It's going to hurt me more than them but that's not really the point.

When the crux of your argument is nit-picking about how you feel a woman (because that's the word when you're talking about human beings, not "a female") should or shouldn't describe her own sexual as

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12 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

Yeah, but we've only got Justin Roberts' word for that.

Point taken.

I just find it interesting that so many stories have come out about Benoit since the murders that weren’t reported at the time. They paint a very different picture of the guy.

I’ve gradually gone from thinking “nobody could’ve seen it coming” to “how the fuck did nobody see it coming?” He clearly got off on beating and humiliating people he saw as weaker than him, even going back to making Japanese Young Boys do press ups while he pissed on them.

Even now, people tend to blame CTE and steroids for the murders, and ignore the possibility that he was just an evil fucking prick.

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1 hour ago, unfitfinlay said:

Point taken.

I just find it interesting that so many stories have come out about Benoit since the murders that weren’t reported at the time. They paint a very different picture of the guy.

I’ve gradually gone from thinking “nobody could’ve seen it coming” to “how the fuck did nobody see it coming?” He clearly got off on beating and humiliating people he saw as weaker than him, even going back to making Japanese Young Boys do press ups while he pissed on them.

Even now, people tend to blame CTE and steroids for the murders, and ignore the possibility that he was just an evil fucking prick.

Having Dynamite Kid as a mentor clearly didn't help.

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I met Benoit and Rhyno at a signing in Hamleys in the early 90’s. I know he was at a signing, and for all I know he could of hated doing public appearances, but he was scary, real intense and I’ve never shook hands with someone who almost crushed my hand like he did. 

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10 hours ago, unfitfinlay said:

Point taken.

I just find it interesting that so many stories have come out about Benoit since the murders that weren’t reported at the time. They paint a very different picture of the guy.

I’ve gradually gone from thinking “nobody could’ve seen it coming” to “how the fuck did nobody see it coming?” He clearly got off on beating and humiliating people he saw as weaker than him, even going back to making Japanese Young Boys do press ups while he pissed on them.

Even now, people tend to blame CTE and steroids for the murders, and ignore the possibility that he was just an evil fucking prick.

He had too many workrates to be in the Evil Bully Club. You could only be a bully if you were a boring, WWF-style worker. If you did crisp Germans, anything rough you did to a rookie was just teaching people to respect the business. It'd still be like that now if Benoit hadn't killed his family, probably.

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51 minutes ago, King Pitcos said:

If you did crisp Germans, anything rough you did to a rookie was just teaching people to respect the business. 

"Nobody who does Germans can be an evil man." 

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42 minutes ago, IANdrewDiceClay said:

Kanyon killing himself back in 2010 has always been one of the saddest deaths in wrestling. There's a guy who gave way more than the industry ever gave him.

I was surprised his book didn't take off afterwards. It is a great read and you can really sense his state of mind throughout. 

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3 minutes ago, FUM said:

I was surprised his book didn't take off afterwards. It is a great read and you can really sense his state of mind throughout. 

He was painted as a loony with a vendetta. Which is strange, considering he was trusted enough to be a talent scout, trainer for Jay Leno and a stunt coordinator for Warner Brothers prior to joining the WWF. But if Vince says he's a headcase, I suppose who better to judge than a level headed soul like Vince McMahon?

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