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I went to see it earlier this afternoon. Cinema was niceandempty. I felt some of the critters were a bit merchy and "Disney" (Porgs, racing cats and planet Glaceon) but the Star Wars stuff was Star Wars stuff and was good. I didn't really think anything to Leia's "Mary Poppins" just that she knew she had to stay alive for La Resistance.to keep going. I liked a lot of the bait and switches they did with the tropes from the old movies. Luke's X-Wing in the sea, The throne room scene, Luke's astral projection thing at the end. The "Nobody's ever really gone" bit had me in tears. Beautiful moment. I think I read somewhere that Leia isn't going to die out of respect to Carrie Fisher, and that they have enough footage to resolve her storyline in episode IX.

I thought Ade Edmondson was great, and am now waiting for the inevitable Star Wars/Bottom mashup clips to appear on Youtube. The conflict between Hux & B/Ren is interesting. Some of the comments I've seen are ridiculously bitter. I loved the Thrawn trilogy and the Hand Of Thrawn Duology. Noticed Pellaeon get namechecked in Rogue One, which was nice.

I liked that Rey doesn't appear to be part of "the family" but still has the ability to use the Force so effectively. It will be interesting to see where they go from here.

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The franchise has definitely moved on and is in good hands with Disney. It did feel very Marvel in places but I liked how fresh it felt in places. Soundtrack was stunning and it's pulled on the heartstrings.

I left loving it, doubted the quality after discussions with friends who claim Disney have killed their childhood and then came back to loving it.

Benicio del Toro's character is horseshite and added nothing to the film. Luke was at his best with Yoda and R2, it felt like Mark Hamill in parts. I echo the disdain for floating Leia and I feel like it should have been Holdo going to start a new resistance, especially as it was Leia's ship.

I thoroughly enjoyed it but a bit of back story on Snoke would have helped. 

RIP Admiral Ackbar.

8/10

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I'm back from watching it and I enjoyed the majority of it. My main bugbears with the film were the "comedy" scenes, just dull slapstick which didn't add anything.The Porgs whilst not annoying obviously aren't aimed at me and didn't ruin the film, but felt really unnecessary. Luke milking that animal was just plain creepy and the casino scene seemed like something out of the prequels. The Rey/Luke/Kylo stuff was great also how Poe/Finn and Rose in being heroic fucked it up for the rebels, really was a nice twist.

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Overall I thought it was great but it wasn't flawless and I'm not sure how well it'll hold up in a few years.  Ridley, Driver and Hamill were excellent and even carried the hokey scenes well. Visually, it's probably the best Star Wars there's been, the opening battle scene and the juggernaut stuff was incredible, I'm sorry I didn't see it at imax now but may well have to the week between Crimbo and NY. 
I wasn't bothered by Snoke getting snuffed, sure it would be interesting to know his background and how he came to be but that could be a standalone film in itself like Rogue One, there was no need for them to give you anymore than they did here.  I'm not sure about that really being Rey's backstory but more a way of Ren getting in to her head, I'm sure Mas knew something about her in the last film but I could be wrong.
Finn and Rose's side story was pretty pointless and didn't do much for me, more interaction between him and Phasma throughout the movie would have made me care more when he offed her.
Admiral Holdo was a shit new character too, it should have been Admiral Ackbar that got the honour off hyperdriving through the Star Destroyer, not some no mark Hunger Games reject
The less said about space Mary Poppins the better.

There was some really terrific stuff though, all the space scenes were incredible, the face off between Kylo and Luke was great, the "noone's ever really gone" line was perfect and sassy Yoda was great. I actually enjoyed the comedy bits too, all the butthurts complaining about it are forgetting there was a few gags in the originals and it was only the prequels that were dry and took themselves too seriously - JarJar Binks was never funny so he doesn't count. Punching bag Hux is inspired too and Gleeson plays the role perfectly.  

 

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I can see the point about Admiral Ackbar, but I think it made sense to make the person who was seemingly without a plan, be more of an unknown quantity. Also, the big Admiral Ackbar head isn't built for emoting, and Laura Dern's lovely face is.

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