The AEW Wednesday Night Dynamite Thread

[LaGoosh]

The SCU act is the worst in the company for me. No idea what it's even supposed to be. How would you explain it to someone? Daniels looks like a complete bellend out there in his weird gear. The sooner it's killed off the better.

[TheBurningRed]

10 minutes ago, Nick James said:

Wow, I mean, thanks for the answer (and attitude), but what does a Bulls / Jordan reference have to do with Omega? I must have missed where it has been answered (here or on Dynamite). If people are having to ask the question each week, then it seems like a daft thing to be putting on Dynamite with no context. 

EDIT: After doing a search for 'North Carolina', the last time it was asked was 20th November, to which the answer was 'Its a Michael Jordan reference', which still doesn't answer the question of what its all about. 

I honestly thought it had been asked more frequently than that. It might’ve been brought up in the last AEW ppv thread. So apologies for that. 
 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.sportskeeda.com/amp/aew/news-aew-s-kenny-omega-reveals-reasoning-behind-north-carolina-references

 

The explanation is in here. 

[WyattSheepMask]

18 minutes ago, Nick James said:

Wow, I mean, thanks for the answer (and attitude), but what does a Bulls / Jordan reference have to do with Omega? I must have missed where it has been answered (here or on Dynamite). If people are having to ask the question each week, then it seems like a daft thing to be putting on Dynamite with no context. 

EDIT: After doing a search for 'North Carolina', the last time it was asked was 20th November, to which the answer was 'Its a Michael Jordan reference', which still doesn't answer the question of what its all about. 

I want to see that it was a thing done when Jordan was being introduced to the crowd at Bulls games. Although he was born in Brooklyn, Jordan played college Basketball when he was at the University of North Carolina (known as the Tar Heels) between 1981 and 1984. 
I don’t think it’s uncommon for big name players to have their college accolades listed, similar to what they’ve been doing with Omega lately, when being introduced to the crowd.

Someone more clued in on Basketball might be able to answer better, but I think that’s the general gist. 
If people have to keep asking what it is, then it’s probably a shit reference

EDIT: as @TheBurningRedposted

Edited December 17, 2020 by WyattSheepMask

[King Coconut]

27 minutes ago, RedRooster said:

But it's not just that though, it's the idea/implication that women are at the wrestling/watching because they want to have sex with its stars. It's obviously different, but I think it's clearly part of the problem. Do you ever watch anything simply because a lead star is attractive? 

My ex-wife used to watch as religiously as me and came to shows simply because she wanted to fuck Edge. 

[DavidB6937]

Really disappointing show this week after weeks of some of their best. Most of it just felt.. skippable is probably a bit harsh but just like it didn't matter whether I watched it or not, while most weeks it's like I have to tune in and make sure I don't miss anything.

Guess it's bound to happen when they set the bar so highly on a regular basis. Can't have home runs every week.

[RedRooster]

25 minutes ago, Louch said:

Let’s just say I never watched baywatch for the storylines. And most of the appeal of Gladiators was the attractive female leads. It’s not a one way thing 

I think this discussion probably belongs somewhere else, but they're very dated examples. I don't know how old you are, but is there literally anything you watch at this very moment for that reason?! 

 

25 minutes ago, LaGoosh said:

My intention was to highlight that Wardlow is a very attractive man who women are likely to want to see and become fans of because he's very attractive (attractive celebrities are very popular, this has been true forever for both male and females) and to highlight that Hangman is very handsome and loveable too. This was very clear in my original post. I'm afraid that you read it in a completely different, very weird and incorrect way. 

Like I said, I don't think it was your intention, but that's the nature of the written word. Things aren't always clear. 

I'm happy to admit that on the back of the "speaking out" movement I found wrestling hard to watch and nearly stopped completely, I nearly quit this forum actually. I, occasionally, deal with depression and wrestling wasn't the escapism it once was. I can admit I'm far more easily "triggered" (for want of a better term) for that reason. I'm not for one second trying to claim you're being misogynistic, I just find the idea that "hot wrestler = lots of females watching" very simplistic, and reflective of a viewpoint expressed by problematic people in wrestling in the past.  If people think I'm being sensitive/daft, fair enough. I'm more than willing to accept that I can be sometimes. 

[LaGoosh]

Fair dos, no offense taken.

I think it is fair though to say that attractive wrestlers can lead to bringing in female fans. The Hardyz had a massive female following back in the day. From personal experience I've got a mate who says she only watched wrestling in the early noughties because she loved Jeff Hardy so much and I previously worked with a 60 year old woman who claimed she only watched it because she thought John Cena and Randy Orton were so hunky. Just to be clear, I don't think this is a negative or anything. 

Edited December 17, 2020 by LaGoosh

[DavidB6937]

Off on a bit of a tangent here but kinda related to the above - having worked in conventions for over 15 years now, I can honestly say that when it comes to particular 'fandoms' aka passionate fanbases that there is a lot of 'ooh that person is hot!' that can initially get people interested. Especially in younger women - for example the guys in Supernatural, Twilight etc. Often the same with groupies with bands.

How much of that translates to wrestling? I'm not sure, but there's definitely some. Especially over the years with some of the names already mentioned - Randy Orton, Jeff Hardy etc.

I don't think we'll ever fully move away from attractiveness being one of the key elements of people in the media. It's the same with dating sites - a lot of those just encourage swiping based on photos, even if people might claim they read profiles etc.

We know there are problems in Hollywood, UK wrestling etc. It's the way the world is and we're trying to move towards a more accepting society but that's something that will take a long time. In wrestling at least I think there's been a significant shift over the past few years in at least attempting to give women more to work with than being eye candy.

I dont think there's anything wrong with finding someone attractive though. You'll always get posters on the walls and calendars etc. I get why there are concerns, especially with the way some people have been treated over the years, but I think there needs to be some kind of distinction where someone's looks and finding them attractive doesn't automatically make you some kind of concerning creep.

I think most mainstream wrestling has moved away from the more questionable treatment of their talent as just eye candy. Not to tone down their looks or behaviour or anything but at least making their characters more multi layered in general and that's a good thing. People wanting to move back to the Attitude era forget that a lot of that stuff just wouldn't fit into the world we live in today/

[Merzbow]

Ignore

Not the thread for it.

 

Tony standing up to Callis was proper fun tho.

Edited December 17, 2020 by Merzbow

[The Cutting Edge]

Seen some backlash online for this week for "being boring" "just like wwe" "Sting justed walked out again yawn"

I'm only mentioning this because we know that's bs and don't want AEW or WWE for that matter get too much into trying to top themselves each week, a bit criticism from guys on the inside during the attitude era is they burnt through years of storylines in months.

All companies shouldn't resort to hotshotting or shock tv to keep fans interested because they'll get bored of that soon enough.

I'd honestly hate to try and understand and promote anything to majority of people these days, they literally change there minds daily.

[The Cutting Edge]

Seen some backlash online for this week for "being boring" "just like wwe" "Sting justed walked out again yawn"

I'm only mentioning this because we know that's bs and don't want AEW or WWE for that matter get too much into trying to top themselves each week, a bit criticism from guys on the inside during the attitude era is they burnt through years of storylines in months.

All companies shouldn't resort to hotshotting or shock tv to keep fans interested because they'll get bored of that soon enough.

I'd honestly hate to try and understand and promote anything to majority of people these days, they literally change there minds daily.

[PowerButchi]

2 hours ago, RedRooster said:

I think this discussion probably belongs somewhere else, but they're very dated examples. I don't know how old you are, but is there literally anything you watch at this very moment for that reason?! 

Pornography.

[Hannibal Scorch]

Dustin referencing Seven being a bad idea then and now, Tony congratulating the 33% increase of Impact's audience last week meaning their audience went up from 1 to 6 people, and Eddie challenging god were all fun. As was Callis and Kenny's mic work during the main event "Kenny, you have your own personally colour commentator" " I do?!?". Great stuff.

The matches were fine but some felt like filing a gap more then making storylines up. But nothing was terrible, just didn't hit some of the recent highs. Still better then any of the weekly WWE shows though.

[Factotum]

I'm a BIG fan of the Sting snow affect. Shit like that makes me happy and I have no idea why.

Always thought WWE should have done that kind of thing with 'Taker entrances at times. That sort of 4D rain effect or something.

I just love gimmicks!

 

[Chili]

I quite enjoyed it to be honest. Seems everyone is having a bit or nark about it, though at least its a different criticism to the women being booked and the 'when are we gonna get to the fireworks factory' reaction every week to it. 

Because I don't really read about WWE so I can't judge and it's a tightrope to bring up. But the acts in AEW I see getting the most stick online besides Matt Hardy and his fucking penguin knees are Brandi, Swole and when Jade Cargill made her debut you couldn't help but feel how uncomfortable it made so people. 'Well she suckssss, they need to abort that angle, she's so not ready' and then reel off a load of green women you'd get on DARK who should get the spot etc. Bit unnerving occasionally. It's extremely noticible with Brandi though. 

 

Edited December 17, 2020 by Chili