Michael_3165 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I don't believe that HHH was much more than a bit player in 90% of his time in the WWE. The only time he was 'the' star of the company was when there were no other alternatives. Whilst he had some stunning matches in 2000-2001 I find he was extremely over-rated given that his matches following the same formula and he is actually somewhat limited for the 'cerebral assassin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted June 14, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted June 14, 2019 Way to go out on a limb. What next? King of the Ring 1995 wasn't good? Vince Russo is a tad illogical? Ricky Steamboat was great? 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_3165 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Hey some people think he deserved the top spot and/or that he is in the same league as Flair etc! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Toni Storm is fucking shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I like root beer Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 4 hours ago, WyattSheepMask said: Toni Storm is fucking shit YES! thought I was the only person in the world that thought this. She's absolutely gorgeous but can't do a decent match for shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL Punk Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Michael_3165 said: Hey some people think he deserved the top spot and/or that he is in the same league as Flair etc! When you say "some people think", do you mean Triple H thinks this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TildeGuy~! Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 11 hours ago, WyattSheepMask said: Toni Storm is fucking shit This She’s had some great matches in Japan but she was carried every second. Anything else I’ve seen from her has been shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronSheik Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 But for a few exceptions (like Cody v Dustin or Brock v Goldberg) the wrestling business is fucking horrendous these days from top to bottom. - total lack of talent with the ability to engage audiences emotionally - total drought of credible characters - generation of proper box office stars has all but dried up - Corporate wrestling is sterile, over produced, wooden, script read and inauthentic - Indy wrestling is full of fucking spot-fest, zero psychology, technical horse shit Back in my day (shakes fist)... maybe it's just the evolution of the business passing me by, but a great book is still a great story, a great move still tells a compelling story, for me the story telling from the top down just doesn't evoke the same emotion it once did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Butternut Squash Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Toni Storm can be okay given a decent opponent but she seems indie as fuck to me. Her facials, selling and promo game is embarrassingly bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Accident Prone Posted June 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, IronSheik said: But for a few exceptions (like Cody v Dustin or Brock v Goldberg) the wrestling business is fucking horrendous these days from top to bottom. - total lack of talent with the ability to engage audiences emotionally - total drought of credible characters - generation of proper box office stars has all but dried up - Corporate wrestling is sterile, over produced, wooden, script read and inauthentic - Indy wrestling is full of fucking spot-fest, zero psychology, technical horse shit Back in my day (shakes fist)... maybe it's just the evolution of the business passing me by, but a great book is still a great story, a great move still tells a compelling story, for me the story telling from the top down just doesn't evoke the same emotion it once did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpykeDudlei1 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 On 12/26/2018 at 12:04 AM, air_raid said: Bell to bell this is possibly true. Context is everything though, the first was in MSG on a bigger show for a title, was a breakthrough moment for Bret and had the better finish. Hmmm...the finish in this always bothered me. I understand Hennig's back was shot to pieces and that was the reason he wasn't given time to be locked in it for any significant period but Hebner's calling for the bell before Bret has even planted his second foot. It was like a worked version of 'the Screwjob'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I've always enjoyed Toni Storm as a live performer in a small audience (with admittedly little promo time). Can't say I've seen her on the old lantern. Not applying this to her but somewhat related, I think there's a difference between being a good live wrestler and a good tv wrestler and it doesn't always get recognised by fans. There's an automatic assumption that one equals the other. In some cases it does, in some cases people have to work at being good at both and in some cases people are one but not the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopper Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Instead of complimenting a wrestler for doing a good Canadian Destroyer, the praise should always go to the person taking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted July 12, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted July 12, 2019 Leo Kruger was a better character than Adam Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 2:48 PM, Mr Butternut Squash said: Toni Storm can be okay given a decent opponent but she seems indie as fuck to me. Her facials, selling and promo game is embarrassingly bad. Late to the party, but she attempted some worked shoot promos in Stardom and they were bloody awful. It was towards the end of her dreadful red belt run (or maybe just after) and she was having a moan about fans complaining about her reign. Problem was the majority of complaints were not even directed at her (she was in a tough spot, only "winning" the belt because Mayu suffered a genuine injury during their match) but at Ogawa and Stardom. Just made her look incredibly thin skinned. Her piledriver is meh as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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