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6 minutes ago, Guy Bifkin said:

Solo was awful. Star Wars died for me with that film. 

A wee bit like Ferguson leaving Man Utd. Another guy having a go didn't half reinforce the brilliance of Harrison Ford (and Ferguson).

Donald Glover is the only memorable thing about the experience. He was perfect for the role and the complete opposite of the dude from Hail Cesar who played Solo.

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Interesting - I know very few people that liked Solo and not Rogue One. Any particular reason?

Rogue One was just bland for me. Characters were wafer thin and I ultimately didn't care about anything. It was box ticking at what they could fit in and I found it ultimately bland. Plus still not sure what Forest Whitaker's character was planning to do by staying behind!

Solo was a fun little movie that didn't get bogged down in the 'lore' of Star Wars. It didn't even mention the force or Jedis. It was just a space heist movie that dealt with parts of the Stars Wars world we hadn't seen before. Yeah you're never going to be Harrison Ford, but the main guy did a pretty good job. It had that sort of 'Sunday Afternoon Movie' vibe that I liked. I still feel its a film that will be liked a lot more as the years go by.

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6 hours ago, Factotum said:

Plus still not sure what Forest Whitaker's character was planning to do by staying behind!

I took it as a moment of defeat. He’d spent decades fighting, getting nowhere, and then the Empire come in and wipe out everything ... at that point, why bother? Better to give up and spend a final few seconds with Bor Gullet.

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On 10/22/2019 at 9:45 AM, WyattSheepMask said:

All that shows is that the “NOT MY STAR WARS~!” folk are either full of shit or just a very loud but small pocket of the fan base.

 

100%. They're a tiny minority, and representative of the most toxic element of fandom and "geek culture"; the sense of ownership over a media property.

They talk about how the films will be a disaster because "the fans" have been let down, because they think that being a Star Wars fan is some niche sub-culture. There's nothing special about you for being a fan of one of the highest-grossing, most watched film franchises in history. It's such a blinkered, naive sense of entitlement that has no bearing in reality.

For the record, I didn't like much of The Last Jedi, I felt it tried a little too hard to subvert expectations to the point that it didn't really seem to know what it was trying to say, and had whole sub-plots that amounted to nothing and could easily have been cut without affecting the narrative. There were a few points where I honestly just lost track of what was going on.

Force Awakens was okay, weakest points were the blatant fan-service, but I recognise why that was necessary. Rogue One was fantastic, and the best Star Wars movie since Empire, and Solo was absolute dog-shit. In many ways I'd put it right at the bottom of my rankings, because at least the prequels tried to add something new, Solo was a complete waste of time, utterly out of step with the character's existing character arc, and only served to answer questions no one was asking - people wanted to know how Han and Chewbacca ended up as a team, sure, but no one wanted to know why he was called Han Solo, I think everyone rightly assumed that it's just his fucking name! 

(Though my "galaxy brain" interpretation of that scene is that every single character in Star Wars was given their name by a bored, surly immigration officer, and that's why they're all fucking stupid. "Chet....Porkins, I guess".)

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Yep. And for all they try to argue that they're not kids' films, how many of them fell in love with the franchise as an adult? 

 

And "it's for kids" isn't a criticism of its quality. It's just an acknowledgement of the target audience. But insecure people don't like to be told that they're not the target audience for anything, and certainly don't want to be told "it's for children".

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16 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

“Yeah, but my 6 year old loves BB-8 and that’s all that matters really isn’t it, as they are kids films”

I was working the checkouts at Somerfield when Phantom Menace came out (oooh, get me) and Jar Jar was getting a pasting very early doors. A mum is doing her packing with 5 year old in tow and I see him collecting the Panini stickers. "Who's your favourite character?" I ask. "JAR JAR!" the kid screams back.

It's hard to adjust your mindset sometimes. Porgs were (still are) huge merchandise shifters. Watch kids flock to the new little rolling hairdryer thing.

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Me and an old school friend had a chat a while back and agreed that the movies are simply not being made for us.

Another friend can't accept that and just parrots youtuber 12675's opinions on everything Star Wars. I actively go out of my not to talk about Star Wars around him.

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I've got a soft spot for Jar Jar, the poor unfortunate bastard. I'm a big fan of Star Wars but the lengths some of these nutters go to slag anything off that isn't the original three is alarming, it's like they were willing TLJ to be shit from the start and when they watched a film with a few obvious flaws that wasn't exactly what they thought was going to happen they dove on it and moaned like babies.

For the record I quite enjoyed TLJ. I didn't walk out of the cinema with the same sense of euphoria I did with TFA, nor did I want to watch it again straight away. I did however think that the Rey/ Kylo/ Praetorian Guards lightsaber fight was the best thing since Duel Of The Fates, I love the opening sequence with the bombers, I think the death of Luke was well done and I liked a lot of the humour. Mainly I just found the ending a bit anticlimactic. I'd have been happy for Rey to have rescued them and that be that, the bit with the kids at the end felt tacked on and like it would have been a post-credit scene if Star Wars did them. Also the whole Casino Zone from Sonic 2 scene bit was shite, as was the clicking in the cave. I don't even mind Mary Poppins Leia all that much.

I'm excited for the new film, I want to see Palpatine, I want to know if the whole "Rey's parents are nobodies" thing is legit or gets wiped away as Kylo messing with her head. Most of all will Constable Zuvio finally get his moment?

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