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Just been in the smaller of the two Tesco in Lincoln. Things were pretty much in stock apart from loo roll and pet food. Did see one guy at the till getting told by the checkout girl that he couldn't

I'll eventually work through all the messages but I'm safe. Thanks folks. I'm still an absolute mess but safe all the same. 

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3 minutes ago, Chest Rockwell said:

I think that's brilliant and hilarious

It's really interesting to see how they deal/have dealt with it, and I think the eldest understands the significance of it, and the kids obviously talk about it, but they still don't see it as we do.

The 7yo was telling me about a video she saw on YouTube about Pedro Pony (the one where he coughs, and they all get sick) but someone had dubbed over it with "Oh no, Pedro's got coronavirus" and she thought it was hilarious but caveated it with "Be sad if Pedro died though".

I suppose it's all to do with awareness of mortality, and I'm not sure at that age you realise the totality of death.

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Our turn (maybe), 5yr old daughter now has to isolate for 2 weeks due to a confirmed case in her year group at school. Her 9yr old sister continues to go to school as normal, and my wife and I aren't required to isolate just advised to ensure only 1 person goes out when we need to - which we did anyway for the most part. Living in a small town in a region with historically lower numbers this is the first time since day one that it's felt 'close', even when there was 1 other case a month ago in another year group it still felt relatively safe.

Time will tell, but if she has caught it then I'm going to assume we all will. Can't really isolate a 5yr old from others in the home, despite my suggestion we stick a bed in the attic....

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52 minutes ago, Bicurious Dad said:

Our turn (maybe), 5yr old daughter now has to isolate for 2 weeks due to a confirmed case in her year group at school. Her 9yr old sister continues to go to school as normal, and my wife and I aren't required to isolate just advised to ensure only 1 person goes out when we need to - which we did anyway for the most part. Living in a small town in a region with historically lower numbers this is the first time since day one that it's felt 'close', even when there was 1 other case a month ago in another year group it still felt relatively safe.

Time will tell, but if she has caught it then I'm going to assume we all will. Can't really isolate a 5yr old from others in the home, despite my suggestion we stick a bed in the attic....

Id double check the advice they gave, my daughter picked it up from school (also in Scotland) and we were all indoors for 14 days, including other kids.

EDIT: Just noticed yours doesnt actually have it. 

Youd be amazed by the way - my kids dodged it so many times and eventually when one of them did catch it, there was not one symptom in our house among any of us. She was asymptomatic. Couldnt tell you if we caught it or not, was never anything wrong with any of us.

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20 hours ago, wordsfromlee said:

Just been reading about a wedding that took place in Maine where 176 of the guests contracted COVID - seven of which ended up dying.

Americans really are thick, aren’t they?

It's worse than that, even. There were 55 people at the wedding, but that resulted in 176 people contracting the illness through contact with those 55. The seven who died weren't even in attendance at the wedding, so it's a depressing example of how "just this once, it won't affect me" isn't an excuse.

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What are people's expectations over Christmas?

I'm trying to figure out whether or not I can see my family in Ireland. A couple of months ago, while the numbers were lower, I booked a rental car, ferry spot and a cabin to drive and sail to and from Ireland in as covid-safe a way as possible (while the cost isn't the point, it's a trip that usually costs me around £160 return by rail and sail, and this time has come out at about £900 - that's to give a sense of doing it in a way that involves minimal proximity to anyone).

My family and I are pretty close, and it's been tough on all of us being separated all year - my mum, in particular, has had a tough year with her own mother going into a care home with advanced dementia. It's been a weird year to go from 'it might be Christmas until we can see each other' to 'at least we can plan for Christmas' to 'will we be able to do Christmas?'.  

I'm keeping an eye on the numbers, and am hoping for them to come down fairly drastically over the next couple of weeks. Talking with my family, we've gone from an assumption to a hope, but we have now acknowledged that it might not happen. I don't see the numbers reducing that much, as it's not exactly been a real lockdown this time around in the UK.

For context, my partner and I are in a busy area of London, but we only really go out for food shopping, walking and take-out, both work from home, and we've been careful with social distancing/masks since March - we've done very little indoors, even when things were open. My family live in the midlands of Ireland (my sister built her house next to my parents, and my parents have a granny flat for my mum's parents next door in a sort of family compound), so if I go there, I'd drive, sail, drive, then stay there the entire time before coming back the same way. I believe there's likely to be testing insisted on both before and after traveling, which I'm fine with.

However, at the same time, I'm worried that there's just no responsible way to go from London to rural Ireland over the next couple of months. In my head, I've gone from 90% certainty over going to about 70%. If the numbers haven't improved much in a couple of weeks, that'll probably be about 50% - at which point, I'll start thinking about alternative plans.

Don't get me wrong. I'm lucky that this, personally, is my biggest issue. I know people who have lost family members. At the same time, I'm frustrated that this has all been so poorly handled that I might go the entire year without seeing any of my family in person.

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I've changed my Christmas plans three times already, and am basically refusing to commit to anything different. I'm trying to keep an eye on what's happening in the UK, and what the regulations are here in Jersey.

The original plan was that my partner and I would spend Christmas at my parents' place in East Yorkshire, and now that's a complete write-off. Even if I could physically get there, with the rest of the family involved, there'd be too many of us. Back-up plan was spending it with my partner in Lewisham, but that doesn't look like a viable option either.

At the moment, my partner is planning to fly to Jersey, and spend Christmas and New Year here. Assuming the rules at both ends stay as they are, that would involve both of us self-isolating over Christmas for 10-12 days. Better together than apart, but far from ideal - the alternative would be that if I go over there, I'd have to isolate for 12 days on the way back on top of the time off work to go there in the first place. It's reasonably likely that Jersey will face another lockdown before then, so it may be that even getting here won't be possible.

I'm expecting that, at both ends, there will be a temporary relaxation of a lot of restrictions as no one's going to want to be the government that cancelled Christmas. But, even if everything's scaled right back, I'm not going to do anything more than spend the period with my girlfriend either here or there, and keep to ourselves.

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46 minutes ago, Chris B said:

What are people's expectations over Christmas?

We're lucky in that there's no great distance to travel between us and my parents but I'm having to constantly reinforce with my mum that we won't be coming round for Christmas Dinner, which is difficult for her to handle as Christmas Dinner is her Wrestlemania.

Once the table is up and everyone is crammed in you couldn't swing a cat in their living room.  Add in an average age of assorted oldies that ticks over 70 and it's not worth it for a stuffing ball.

Current plan is we'll go round mid-morning before the table goes up so we can spread out a bit.  Mince pies, glass of sherry, and throw presents to each other from opposite ends of the room.  I see that as a best case scenario.  Worst case is we wrap up warm and throw presents through the open door and drink cocoa on the doorstep.

If there was no hope of a better treatment, vaccine, getting case numbers under control etc then maybe I'd think differently but I'd rather give that chance to play out than roll the dice for a cracker pull 12 weeks before they start rolling out vaccinations.  I'm happy to wait until June for my big turkey dinner, and it will be fucking massive.

 

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As someone who genuinely detests half his family, I'm not massively arsed about Christmas as it really is *cliche alert* just another day.

However, I do appreciate that most people have a nice, loving, normal family and I am in the minority so I think it's sad that people may not be able to spend it with their loved ones.

I know it sounds a bit ridiculous, but could you not just do something similar at a slightly later date?

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6 minutes ago, SuperBacon said:

I know it sounds a bit ridiculous, but could you not just do something similar at a slightly later date?

Not ridiculous at all. That's one of the options. As much as anything, it's just that Christmas will mark a full year since I've seen any of them, which we've never done.

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