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I don’t think they did a particularly bad job on Gut Check, just seemed daft to waste that much TV time building people for a one off appearance.
 

Better building their wrestlers and bringing jobbers in to give their actual roster a couple wins and a better record. It is going back to basics but they might as well do that as much as possible while fans aren’t expecting regular programming 

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Soooooo...Revival v Young Bucks cant be far off!!

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34 minutes ago, UK Kat Von D said:

I don’t think they did a particularly bad job on Gut Check, just seemed daft to waste that much TV time building people for a one off appearance.
 

Better building their wrestlers and bringing jobbers in to give their actual roster a couple wins and a better record. It is going back to basics but they might as well do that as much as possible while fans aren’t expecting regular programming 

Normally yeah but I was thinking about the current issues to fill tv but not burn though matches or future feuds, since both company's seem to have a limited roster (although wwe have non tv nxt/pc guys to use in that spot)

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6 hours ago, tiger_rick said:

I know what you mean. Apart from the Luchas though, who are being underutilised, none of those guys are nearly ready to be the big deal yet.

I know. The only one who was ready (in theory) is Kenny Omega. He's essentially to AEW what AJ Styles was to TNA.* And he's had three singles losses in AEW - all to WWE castoffs.

You might be right about Hardy and Harper falling down to more natural positions on the card for them, as happened with Dillinger - but his only 1v1 losses on TV/PPV are also to other WWE castoffs. I'd expect it'll be Jericho or Swagger who bumps Hardy down the card, and Ambrose or Cody who does the same to Harper, because those are the guys on that level.

Then when they hit the midcard is where they'll be taking TV time away from the "homegrown" roster. The main event scene is likely going to be Omega, Page and WWE wrestlers for the foreseeable future, so Matt Hardy as a midcard babyface will be in a spot that could've been Darby Allin or Jungle Boy. Harper as a midcard heel will be in a spot that could've been MJF or Sammy. 

Like you say, there's a tipping point where it becomes detrimental, but for me, bringing these two boys in like they have isn't a good sign. 

*In more than one way, actually. Like TNA AJ, Kenny's got the workrate going for him, but in terms of overall ability, he's not really on par with the lads who have experienced the big time wrestling. AJ wasn't able to carry himself or a promo as well as the likes of Booker T, Kurt Angle and Christian were. And we see that all the time in AEW with Kenny as compared to Cody, Jericho and Ambrose. Wrestlers that have the WWE experience are better than wrestlers that don't, but a company hoping to rival WWE shouldn't be spotlighting that. Omega was their best shot at presenting someone new as better than WWE guys, even if only in the match results.

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7 hours ago, WyattSheepMask said:

They factor in the record overall, that why Jericho is as high as he is. He was the champion until mid February. He doesn’t just tumble to the bottom of the rankings after losing the belt

I would argue that if he failed to compete in any matches prior to and after losing the belt whilst others were he would go down the rankings. Why else would you have the year to date record so much more prominent, and make a big deal of resetting the W/L record if they take the overall into account so heavily?

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23 hours ago, MPDTT said:

Soooooo...Revival v Young Bucks cant be far off!!

Well, it’s 3 month off at least. Then again, let’s not be certain as everyone thought that Marty Scurll was coming in too only to resign with ROH. Also, wouldn’t be shocked if New Japan tried to sign The Revival to some sort of deal

Got to say, I’m quite happy for The Revival. They’ve clearly wanted out of their deals for so long now, glad they can finally move on

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Other than the Boneyard match, I thought the stuff they did on this show hyping up Moxley vs. Hager was the best thing either company has done in weeks. Further evidence that these shows would benefit massively from just being a collection of classic matches, video packages, character/feud profiles and vignettes.

AEW in particular have told loads of great stories since their inception that would come across great in video packages. For example, Kenny Omega is gonna feel far more of a star if you run through everything he and Adam Page have done thus far than having him dicking around with his shit, unfunny mate in front of Billy Gunn and his son.

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On 4/9/2020 at 3:58 PM, WyattSheepMask said:

And they even forgot that for 3 weeks

With regards to what’s been said about AEW having “proper” heels, I think they’ve got a real possibility to have one with Lance Archer, and perhaps to the best for them to do that would be to have him take out Jake Roberts. Not right now obviously, but when they’re back in front of crowds and Lance has plowed through a few people, he takes out Jake saying that he’s his own man and can’t be controlled by anyone

I couldn’t disagree more. They’re a brilliant pairing. Jake’s taper promos make him feel like this shadowy, almost Satanic figure and Archer feels genuinely sinister because of this. Writing Roberts out and losing these terrifying promos would be a bigger mistake than having Michael Nakazawa sub for Hangman Page for a week. And that was a big mistake. 

All in all I thought this was a good episode, with the obvious low points being Nakazawa and Matt Hardy. Even if you forget the ‘mystical’ elements of his promo, its contents were just lame. His insults are playground quality and the Vanguard One stuff was embarrassing.

Brodie Lee was slightly better this week, but I’m still not mad about his character.

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22 hours ago, Marshmallo said:

Was Gut Check a shoot? I'm sure I read somewhere that Flair rejected someone who was meant to get a contract. Some boy.

Was the other way round, IIRC. Week 1, Flair was scripted to say no to that Alex Silva kid but went off piste so not only did they have to sign him and give him a year in OVW, it also ruined the build they intended to do to make the first person to actually get signed a big deal.

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Enjoyed this week’s show, one of the better ones of the Empty Arena Era. Lance Archer looks great and I very much enjoy watching him squash nobodies. The chokeslam suplex was particularly good. My suggestion for an improvement would be if instead of different people, he just beat up Marko Stunt every week.

Moxley/Hager videos were very well done and definitely the sort of thing both companies should be focusing on at the moment.

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38 minutes ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

Enjoyed this week’s show, one of the better ones of the Empty Arena Era. Lance Archer looks great and I very much enjoy watching him squash nobodies. The chokeslam suplex was particularly good. My suggestion for an improvement would be if instead of different people, he just beat up Marko Stunt every week.

Moxley/Hager videos were very well done and definitely the sort of thing both companies should be focusing on at the moment.

I'd quite like that actually. A fun little story to build to a Archer/Luchasaurus hoss battle at some point. It would get Stunt some good sympathy too.

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