Paid Members Lorne Malvo Posted June 15 Paid Members Posted June 15 I'm all in on a social media ban for under 16s, the negatives far outweigh the positives on social media now and children shouldn't be subjected to (or feel like that have to take part in) that load of shite. YouTube isn't social media though is it? It's a step too far and just reeks of the government not really knowing what the internet is. Quote
Paid Members FLips Posted June 15 Paid Members Posted June 15 I’m all for them banning Youtube as well, it definitely falls under social media in it’s current form. I’d ban the likes of Kick and Twitch as well. Youtube might have useful things for revision or whatever but those are things you can find in alternative spaces like books, apps or just straight up text-based websites. Social Media including Youtube is one of the main reasons kids can’t concentrate for 5 minutes anymore, adults too. Getting kids off social media will have a huge effect in beginning to worm out and kill off streamers like MrBeast, The Paul Brothers and iShowSpeed, and ultimately more dangerous ones like the Tate Brothers. Kids are the primary audience for these idiots and banning access to the likes of them alone and stopping “brain rot” or dangerous and awful mindsets being spread by them far outweighs the negatives of not being able to watch more helpful stuff on Youtube. In an ideal world parents would take responsibility for what their kids view online, but that simply doesn’t happen the same way my parents let me play Grand Theft Auto when I was a kid. This is the next best thing. Quote
Members SuperBacon Posted June 15 Members Posted June 15 11 minutes ago, FLips said: Youtube might have useful things for revision or whatever but those are things you can find in alternative spaces like books, apps or just straight up text-based websites. Sure, but every kid learns in different ways. I'm not saying my eldest relied solely on YouTube for her revision, it complimented it and she was able to get some really useful history and maths help from there. It also helps switch up the learning. There is only so long a kid can sit in front of a book or a text based website. Visual learning helps break up the monotony. Quote
SaitoRyo Posted June 15 Posted June 15 I think years from now people will view social media in a similar way to which we now view smoking. As in, the harms of it were covered up for ages by the people pushing their addictive, poisonous product on kids. So yeah, ban it for the under-16s. Plus, smoking is waaaaaay cooler. I'd rather the kids have tabs than TikTok. Actually, fuck it, bring back tabs. Let's get these kids smoking again! Quote
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted June 15 Paid Members Posted June 15 Banning YouTube is an awful move. It's a brilliant educational and entertainment tool if monitored correctly. You can easily block wankers on there so your kids are not exposed to them. I learn stuff off there all the time and I'm 49. My son wasn't able to attend school from 13yo onwards and with guidance he learned so much on there. It's a government thinking it's an easy populist move to try and paper over the cracks of their awful time in power. Just like age verification for adult content. Ill thought out bullshit that will have precisely zero positive effects on society or a generation of kids. Except to teach them how to use VPNs. Quote
Tim Healys Chutney Spoon Posted June 15 Posted June 15 This was the main discussion in the staff room at lunchtime and one of the more 'outspoken' mums of the group was very vocal of 'what's my daughter going to do now if they ban TikTok?' And kept on about how her 15yr old basically lives on TikTok. Most of the rest of us were mouthing to each other 'shut up going on'. Eventually I said that IF it comes into force in the Spring of 2027 then her daughter would be 16 and unlikely to be affected anyway... she still didn't get it and kept on about how it would mess up her daughters life etc. I had to walk away in the end. Parents need to parent and not let kids live on social media. My daughter, who's just turned 6, does like her YouTube Kids but she also spends loads of time playing outside with other kids from the street (ALL the parents look out for eachothers kids in our close and everyone near enough has camera doorbells so its very safe for them). She maybe spends 5hrs a week, if that, on the Internet. My son,now 15, on the other hand spends his life on YouTube and Instagram reels. This is to do with autism and fear of going out. We regularly monitor what he is watching and he usually shares a lot of what he sees online with us. We also brought him up explaining what is right and wrong and he knows about the likes of the Tates and how much of a cunt they are etc. Overall I think the ban is a good thing, BUT there must be things put in place as alternatives. It's all well and good banning social media, but there's plenty more out there that's even worse and easily accessible Quote
The King Of Swing Posted June 15 Posted June 15 Seems like a half arsed idea that will be virtually impossible to effectively enforce. Just like digital ID. If a near 50 year old (christ) idiot like me can easily get around it, then it has no chance. Quote
Merzbow Posted June 15 Posted June 15 It's going to be great having to upload my passport and a 5 second video of myself just prove I'm over 16 and log in to MySpace, but more seriously I can see this locking out quite a few adults from being able to use them too. Just watch for a VPN ban to come soon after. Quote
Members SuperBacon Posted June 15 Members Posted June 15 Maybe they'll all turn to the real horrors, "wrestling" forums. Quote
CTXRussomark Posted June 15 Posted June 15 How are they actually proposing to do this though? The headlines are meaningless if it's just another age verification system that kids will find a way around. I fully expect this is all just headline grabbing and it's not actually going to change much for users. Kids will either find a way around it or parents will want to stick it to the government and let them use it anyway (just ask Jamie Oliver). The only way it could possibly work is genuine financial implications for the tech companies, but I don't see that happening. Quote
Paid Members Carbomb Posted June 15 Paid Members Posted June 15 (edited) I'd be a bit more in favour of banning certain platforms if I thought that was the general intent, but they've already shown their arses by making out that it's driven by the Brianna Ghey murder, and the total lie that they keep pushing that it was because of social media and not rampant, long-cultivated transphobia. Edited June 15 by Carbomb Quote
Tamura Posted June 15 Posted June 15 (edited) I assume, although I don't know for sure as nobody seems to have explained it particularly well, that as they are talking about banning Youtube in the same way as Australia did then it's actually a ban on logging in to Youtube using an account and using certain features rather than a blanket ban on even watching a video on there. Edited June 15 by Tamura Quote
TibBo Posted June 15 Posted June 15 Demonetise any videos where they shout ‘Let’s Go!!!’ every 30 seconds, and you’ll get rid of a lot of the crap on YouTube. Not sure how they are going to enforce it in reality, but I don’t think it’s a bad thing really. It’s fucking sad seeing primary school kids so hooked on phones at such a young age. Quote
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted June 15 Paid Members Posted June 15 7 minutes ago, TibBo said: Demonetise any videos where they shout ‘Let’s Go!!!’ every 30 seconds, and you’ll get rid of a lot of the crap on YouTube. Not sure how they are going to enforce it in reality, but I don’t think it’s a bad thing really. It’s fucking sad seeing primary school kids so hooked on phones at such a young age. They'll get AI to do it because they love AI and it'll give their mates some nice contracts for providing the services. Net Zero? What's that? Quote
westlondonmist Posted June 15 Posted June 15 Did Starmer watch the episode of The Simpsons where Marge gets violence stopped in cartoons and think we'll if she can get the kids outside playing, why can't I? Quote
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