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The General Politics Thread v2.0 (AKA the "Labour are Cunts" thread)


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1 minute ago, d-d-d-dAz said:

His majority is only 6,000 too and Reform just absolutely smashed Labour at the locals. Burnham is going to have to run on an explicit 'if you want rid of this cunt, vote me' platform.

It's a risk but it very much looks like a calculated one showing that he and Labour can beat Reform in the areas that are tight. They've chosen that MP, and area, deliberately IMO.

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1 hour ago, SuperBacon said:

It's a risk but it very much looks like a calculated one showing that he and Labour can beat Reform in the areas that are tight. They've chosen that MP, and area, deliberately IMO.

If the mayor of Manchester can't win a by-election in Greater Manchester, he's not going to win a General Election. That would be terrible news for Labour, but you may as well find it out now and have three years to think/pray for a plan C.

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I do wonder whether this is why Stermer is letting it happen, because he doesn't think Burnham's gamble is going to pay off. It's also going to be interesting to see whether any other parties will put candidates forward or just see what happens in a two horse race. 

Mrs Jazzy and I had a little trip to Blackpool to take the dogs for a run on the beach last night. Blackpool Tower now only lights up in one colour as a reminder of which party runs the council. It really is pathetic. Katie Hopkins is doing a thing on North Pier in July as well. 

 

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In defense of Blackpool I wouldn’t expect anything else of them. It’s an incomprehensibly rough shithole that’s both populated and visited almost exclusively by pissed up thickos and white over-60s. It’s a town that somehow feels like it’s holding a perfectly nice coast hostage.

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1 hour ago, Jazzy G said:

I do wonder whether this is why Stermer is letting it happen, because he doesn't think Burnham's gamble is going to pay off

People were already pissed off last time he blocked Burnham. He'd have a complete shitshow on his hands if he had tried to block him again when it's clear to everyone there will actually be a leadership contest imminently. No way he would have survived that. So yeah, he had to gamble that it might fail or that he can beat him because those are the only options.

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2 hours ago, FLips said:

In defense of Blackpool I wouldn’t expect anything else of them. It’s an incomprehensibly rough shithole that’s both populated and visited almost exclusively by pissed up thickos and white over-60s. It’s a town that somehow feels like it’s holding a perfectly nice coast hostage.

When I visited Blackpool and the surrounding areas I was genuinely shocked at how much of a shithole it is and how rough, beaten down  and manky all the poor souls unfortunate enough to live there looked.

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2 hours ago, Chest Rockwell said:

People were already pissed off last time he blocked Burnham. He'd have a complete shitshow on his hands if he had tried to block him again when it's clear to everyone there will actually be a leadership contest imminently. No way he would have survived that. So yeah, he had to gamble that it might fail or that he can beat him because those are the only options.

I think that's probably true but I do agree this is a tough seat to win. It's had a strong Reform /UKIP base for a while, not necessarily a Starmer thing. 

 

Greens have an interesting choice, field no candidate to not risk splitting the vote? Or field a candidate to try and weaken the Labour Party, leaving them with Streeting or Starmer?

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Given that he's shown willingness to work with them and actually been admonished within the labour party for daring to flirt with the idea of a progressive alliance you would think they would want him to be in the top spot in the labour party... At least I'd hope they would be thinking on those lines. 

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16 hours ago, FLips said:

In defense of Blackpool I wouldn’t expect anything else of them. It’s an incomprehensibly rough shithole that’s both populated and visited almost exclusively by pissed up thickos and white over-60s. 

Fucking hell, if that was you in defence of it, I'd hate to hear you slag it off.

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His thing about Labour shouldn't go to the right or left but should focus on radical centrism has pissed me off no end. What exactly is a radical centrist? Someone who makes huge reforms that somehow don't upset or challenge anyone on the left or right wing? Massive structural changes to government policy that have no political ideology behind them at all? How is that possible?

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Any time somebody says it's not about right and left and they need to appeal to the centre, they're about to say the most right-wing thing imaginable. 

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3 minutes ago, LaGoosh said:

His thing about Labour shouldn't go to the right or left but should focus on radical centrism has pissed me off no end. What exactly is a radical centrist? Someone who makes huge reforms that somehow don't upset or challenge anyone on the left or right wing? Massive structural changes to government policy that have no political ideology behind them at all? How is that possible?

His lobbying for fossil fuels and implication that climate change is a left wing issue is also tiresome, and really kills what he has left of a legacy. It ignores evidence that renewable energy is cheaper, and of the irreversible damage being done through our inability to cut our global carbon footprint. To suggest that the North Sea is the answer to any of our energy woes, at best, extremely misleading. 

I don’t know if he’s doing it because he genuinely believes it or just likes the money, but it’s so bloody dangerous to make suggestions like these. 

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what's frustrating is that the only people who take his input seriously are the people in power. Everyone else recognises that he's a generational cunt.

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