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  1. David

    UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

    Colin mentioned that he may have signed a new contract, so everything could be hunky dory, I'm just pointing out the fact that he seemed more than happy to sit out the last time he raised issues with his pay, which was during his title run. This doesn't seem like a man who's afraid of being lost in the shuffle or having the UFC unhappy with him. He's going in there and getting punched in the head (and poked in the eye) for a living, and he believes he deserves to get paid, regardless of what he "draws." How he's received by the fans and the public in general is primarily the domain of his promoters. The key is in the title, isn't it? Promoter. People who are supposed to be good at promotion. I don't buy into this shit that it's on the fighters to promote themselves entirely. The fighters have more than enough to contend with by training, eating correctly, staying healthy, and trying to make sure they make weight. The vast majority of them aren't media-savvy television personalities. they're guys and girls who are adept at hitting people and winning fights. Sure, the odd "lightning in a bottle" scenario will happen now & then, but it seems to me that the UFC are simply sitting back and telling these guys to "get themselves over," while they reap all the rewards. Surely there's a well-paid team of promotional experts who work within the company who's sole job is to take these fighters who are good at what they do, and think of ways to make them look top dollar and appealing to the fans? They put together a plan to make it happen, and the fighter does whatever promotional duties are needed, right? That's how it works in every other fucking industry out there. In fact, when you think about it, Dana is actually an anti-promoter. Case in point, this past weekend when asked about Ngannou. Even the most amateur promoter in any fight sport would address that shambles of a fight by saying something like "I'm not sure about Ngannou, he had an off-night. We've all seen what he can do though, and you know he'll be chomping at the bit to get back in there and start knocking people out." But no, he gets asked about someone who's supposedly a future star, an African knock out artist with a great look and KO power and says - What even the worst promoter in the fucking world wouldn't do is destroy the guy in public. With a "promoter" like that supposedly working for you what chance have you got? Then they tell the fighters that they don't deserve to get paid because they're not over with the fans? It's some fucking racket they have going on, honestly 😂
  2. David

    UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

    I get the feeling that he's not going to fight unless the money's right. He probably also knows that with the current climate within the UFC, a win over someone in his next fight guarantees nothing. As has been mentioned, if Jon Jones rolls into town and declares a move to heavyweight and a desire to face the winner of DC/Lesnar, then Stipe ain't getting that title fight next. If he's operating on the belief that a win over a Blaydes or Volkov will get him another shot and a $600,000 payday then he's an idiot, as that's far from being the case. If that's the case then that changes everything, obviously. The money he got for the DC fight was a separate negotiation according to DC, but I think his $600,000 pay as champion is the standard that a UFC champion gets, isn't it? I'm sure Woodley got the same pay bump when he won the strap. Not sure what his new deal, if there is one, will see him get post-championship run. Is anyone aside from Conor and Lesnar really a draw today? I think the UFC need to re-evaluate what they term as a "successful" PPV, if they haven't already. The days of shows doing 750,000 and above on a regular basis are gone save for a few attractions. Miocic is no different from 99% of the fighters on the roster today, but does that mean all of those fighters should be paid shit money because they "don't draw?"
  3. David

    UFC 227: Dillashaw vs Garbrandt 2

    And against anyone else in the division he's probably got a real chance, but he's just unlucky that the champion in his division is probably the legit GOAT and someone who's very much in his fighting prime. Is there any chance we see Hank move up maybe? He tight at the weight just now? Or no?
  4. David

    UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

    Apologies for the double quote. That statement was made by Stipe when he was champion. He was making $600,000 per fight base rate. At that money he'd fight anyone, of course he would. If the UFC come to him and ask him to fight for close to what he made pre-title (they'd be mad to even waste the money on the phone call to do that in my opinion,) then I'd be very surprised if he doesn't tell them to fuck off. He's a "I'll fight whoever" as long as the pay is right. He's all about the money. He doesn't care about legacy, bouncing back, being the greatest or any of that jazz. He's already made noises about the money he was getting as champion, so how will he react to getting a fraction of that? Maybe the company will surprise the shit out of us and pay him what he believes he's worth? Time will tell I guess.
  5. David

    UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

    Or he'll simply sit out and not fight anyone. I honestly don't think the guy seems as though he'd be all that fussed if he never fought again if the money wasn't right. By the same token, if the UFC put a figure in front of him that works I have no doubt he'd happily fight a no-name on the opening fight of the FightPass prelims. Unless they agreed a new deal with him since he won the title, his contract was for $65,000 show money, and $65,000 win bonus. I can't see him entertaining that. If that's what he's offered, or even a slight increase on it, he's probably better off trying to figure a way out of the company and going elsewhere. He'd make a lot more than that with one of the 2nd tier companies and his own sponsorship deals. On a related note, did anyone read the article in the Guardian about the shenanigans at the weekend?
  6. David

    Golden Boy MMA - Chuck vs. Tito III

    My prediction is that it'll be a shitshow, and probably end via a win for Tito via decision in a fight where both guys look absolutely shit. They'll get paid though, so it won't really matter.
  7. David

    UFC 227: Dillashaw vs Garbrandt 2

    You think so? I honestly don't see it, at all. The dude has primarily been a decision machine since coming into the UFC, with five of six wins coming via the judges. The only way I see someone beating Mouse is via a KO, which I don't see Hank managing to do. If it goes the full five, he's on the losing end of a decision in my opinion.
  8. David

    UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

    Thing is, from what I've read Stipe made $750,000 from this fight alone, which is a fair chunk of cash for him. He isn't living the high life, he's living comfortable, but he isn't pissing cash away. If he was smart he could, and would take the time off and let the dust settle on the circus that's started. He's taken a hard shot to the dome, and could probably do worse than take a year or so off, especially with a new kid on the way. Let this shit all play out and see what's waiting for him at the end. If he takes either of those on anywhere close to his pre-championship run money then he's a fool. He won't do that though. Not if his recent actions are anything to go by. There's one thing Stipe gives a shit about, and it's getting paid. There seems to be this misconception that he's an "I'll fight anyone, anytime, no problem" kind of guy, which couldn't be further from the truth. The dude was in a full-blown contract dispute with the UFC during his title run over what he was getting paid, so there's next to no chance that he gets a call to face Blaydes or Volkov on piss-poor money and accepts it, title shot promised with a win or not. His pay rate before his title run was $65,000 to show, $65,000 win bonus. Did you watch any of the pre-fight build to the Cormier fight? DC was banging on about legacy and being the greatest of all time, and all Miocic was saying was that it was "another day at the office," and that "he was there to do his job." He gives not a single fuck about legacy, titles or any of that nonsense. He cares about his bank account growing fatter each time he steps in the cage, and rightfully so. He knows that none of that legacy shit matters, except to some fans of a niche sport and the fighters themselves. He's in it to make the most cash he can, then get to fuck. Again, same thing. Stipe is nothing like Edgar. He doesn't give a fuck about "getting a win," or "bouncing back." He cares about being paid to do what he does. I honestly get the feeling that if he was told tomorrow that he could never fight again he'd be like "okay, cool" and be quite happy with the not inconsiderable amount of money he's made so far and just go back to being a fireman in Ohio and forget about ever being a UFC fighter. He strikes me as a family guy, who wants to make his and their lives as comfortable as possible. By my reckoning he's banked around $2.85 million from the fight against Werdum until this fight at the weekend, so he's not wanting for cash. The guy lives a regular life in Ohio, he's not going broke any time soon. If the UFC want him to step in and fight, they'll need to pay him well I'd guess. And if they don't want to pay him? I don't think he'd have any qualms sitting out for as long as it takes. I think the sport has now plateaued. The days of huge PPV buys outwith a couple of freak attractions are done, and the new owners know that. They probably feel that they've been sold a rotten apple by the Fertitta's, and they'd be right in thinking that. Those two dudes got out at the right time. Unfortunately, it's the fans who'll pay the price, because I honestly think this new ownership group would happily destroy the sport and the company if that's what it takes to get their cash back, which is what they're doing. I predict that when these guys finally get their money and sell up (which they will as soon as they claw back most of their losses) we're gonna be left with a "sport" that's been set back about 15 years by all of their shit. The fans today don't give a fuck. That's evident in the fact that no one is buying anymore. Even I don't care now. It's a shit show. Like a rubbish car boot sale in Bognor Regis, I find myself wading through a lot of shit to find the odd decent nugget worth my attention these days. And if it's raining, I won't even bother showing up at all.
  9. David

    The new MMA general news, events and thoughts thread

    My main point is that if Murray had, say, gotten an injury that cost him his career, would people be talking about him as an uncrowned great? I doubt it. It's the outside of the cage mystique shit that has people talking so much, and if we're honest, none of that matters in the cage.
  10. David

    UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

    He'll find somewhere in the lineup that makes sense, but if he's smart it doesn't involve facing anyone like Volkov or Blaydes. None of those fights will pay him decent coin, and beating either of them isn't going to put him in title contention either, is it? Certainly not any more than he already is. There's literally no upside to either of those fights. It's not a wins/losses game any more, it's a "how much fucking money can I get paid?" game, so I wouldn't be fighting anyone unless it's gonna put considerable change in my pocket. As for Jones, he's unreliable. There's no way he's coming back to a title shot at a weight class he's never fought in before. Not a fucking chance.
  11. David

    The new MMA general news, events and thoughts thread

    I get what you're saying, but Jeremy Horn went the distance with Anderson as well three months before that, and Ryo Chonan subbed him a few months after his win over Murray. Anderson was good then, but he wasn't at his peak in my opinion. It was nearly 2 years between his fight with Murray and his spectacular stoppage of Rich Franklin. Maybe Murray could have been that good, but if you take away the legend of the London streets tough guy and look at his record alone, he's nothing to write home about in my opinion.
  12. David

    UFC 227: Dillashaw vs Garbrandt 2

    Anyone else not interested whatsoever in seeing the rematch between DJ and Cejudo? Reckon Mouse handily beats him again, maybe not as quickly, but still.
  13. David

    UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

    None of them draw any real interest in my opinion. If this was still the game of wins and losses, then sure thing, but it isn't, so why the fuck risk your spot against some no-name like Blaydes or Volkov for a fraction of what you'd get against either DC or Lesnar? What Stipe will be hoping is that Brock wins, so he gets that fight. I think Cormier is more winnable for Brock than Stipe is, so it could happen. I reckon Stipe vs Lesnar would be a quicker, more brutal version of Lesnar vs Cain. We'd maybe even get to see the breakdance of shame from the big man again.
  14. David

    The new MMA general news, events and thoughts thread

    Thing is, if he hadn't gotten done for what he did, it's very likely he'd have fucked up at some point and been put away. As is, we can only go on the information we have, and from what I've seen of him I don't think he'd have been remembered as a major player if he'd stuck around. Don't think he'd have had the longevity of a Bisping either.
  15. David

    UFC 226: Miocic vs Cormier

    In an ideal world he'd get an immediate rematch, but that's obviously not on the cards. He's essentially in no man's land.
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