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  1. UFC on FOX: Poirier vs Gaethje - Apr 14

    Saturday 14th April. Glendale, Arizona. Big FOX. I know it's almost two months away but we really should start talking about this. FOX MAIN CARD Dustin Poirier vs Justin Gaethje Carlos Condit vs Matt Brown John Moraga vs Wilson Reis Arjan Bhullar vs Adam Wieczorek Tim Boetsch vs Antonio Carlos Junior Israel Adesanya vs Marvin Vettori FOX SPORTS 1 PRELIMS Lando Vannata vs Gilbert Burns Abdul Razak Alhassan vs Muslim Salikhov Michelle Waterson vs Cortney Casey Yushin Okami vs Dhiego Lima FIGHT PASS PRELIMS Krzysztof Jotko vs Brad Tavares Matthew Lopez vs Alejandro Perez Shana Dobson vs Lauren Mueller Luke Sanders vs Patrick Williams Look at that. Best Big FOX show we've had in a while for me that is. Poirier vs Gaethje is just...do I really have to sell you on this fight? I know you never truly can say 100% how a fight will play out but in some cases, you just know it's going to be something special. When you put two guys like this in the cage, the ingredients for a dud just aren't there. Poirier is riding high at the moment. His last 3 fights he's looked great and had amazing fights with Anthony Pettis, Eddie Alvarez and Jim Miller. He's on fire right now. He's really got the look of a fighter who is hitting his peak form. And he's still not even 30. Gaethje is the one I'm really interested to see here though. He's coming off his first loss in an absolute war against Eddie Alvarez in December. Before that he was 18-0 with 16 finishes, was coming off a FOTY contender against Michael Johnson, was the WSOF champ etc. You never know how a fighter's first loss will effect them mentally but I wouldn't think Gaethje will lose any of his aggression. He's just wired funny. Even if he's planning to be more cautious, once he gets cracked the red mist will descend again. Can't see anything but a crazy slobberknocker with these two. And although they probably won't need the 5 rounds, it's nice that they're there just incase. Nothing worse than a crazy fight ending after 3 rounds just when it's on the verge of becoming a 5 round classic. Can't go wrong with these two. Condit vs Brown in some ways is similar to the main event. These two have built their careers on having wars and both are known for being in exciting fights. The x-factor here though is that they've both been talking about retiring over the last year or so. Condit's got his own business ventures going on away from fighting and Brown was actually saying going into his last fight against Diego Sanchez that it would be his swansong. He backed off on that after KOing Sanchez in a round though. And here we are. I don't really know what to make of this. Condit didn't look great against Magny last time out but in fairness it was his first fight in a long time and Magny is an awkward opponent at the best of times. Brown is much more suited to Condit's style. Usually I'd be lukewarm to a fight between two guys with a foot out the door but with these two, once the cage closes I think all that goes out the window and they'll bite down on the mouthpiece and go balls out. Should be a wild one. Moraga vs Reis will be good. It's almost a shame that these guys often go underappreciated because they're all victims of the Mighty Mouse reign. It gives them all the stink of being damaged goods but these are quality fighters in their own right. I've said for a while that I like Moraga. He's not got the best of UFC records (7-5) but he's one of those fighters who I watch and think he's better than his record would lead you to believe. He's won his last two fights and scored a crushing knockout over Bibulatov at UFC 216. Reis is going to be a tough opponent though. World class BJJ, decent enough striking and he's experienced and crafty. Boetsch vs Shoe Face is a fun clash of styles. Boetsch has been an undercard favourite of mine for about a decade now. Ever since he dumped David Heath on his head way back. And his KO over Okami in Japan ranks among the greatest comebacks in MMA history. Seems a top bloke as well. He's won 3 of his last 4 and most recently battered Johny Hendricks which is always a good time. I like Carlos Junior as well though. He won TUF Brazil a few years back and has a ridiculous BJJ game. Had a bit of a rocky start in the UFC but really seems to be finding his groove now, winning his last 4 fights, 3 by submission. I don't fancy Boetsch's chances at all if this hits the ground. Israel Adesanya is back! No fucking around. After a near perfect UFC debut at UFC 221 in Australia, he's still undefeated at 12-0 with 12 knockouts in MMA. That on top of 50 wins in his kickboxing career and 5 pro boxing victories. He's a seriously good striker. He showed glimpses of an improving defensive grappling game as well in his UFC debut but there's clearly still a long way to go in that area. This time he's up against probably the least Italian looking Italian on the planet in Marvin Vettori. He's 24 with a 12-3-1 record. Hasn't beat anyone especially noteworthy but he's got a few submissions under his belt so could potentially ask a few more questions of Izzy's ground game. Vannata vs Burns is another fun sounding styles clash. Everyone's style clashes with Groovy Lando's, doesn't it? He's a wacky character with his own unique way of doing everything. Burns is a BJJ world champion who has shown KO power recently. I like watching both of these but definitely rooting for a Lando Vannata highlight reel KO. Love watching him fight. Never a dull moment. Alhassan vs Salikhov is my ***WAND'S ONE TO WATCH*** for this card. This could be mega explosive. Alhassan is a little beast. He scored one of the more brutal one punch knockouts of 2017 when he completely wiped out Sabah Homasi with an uppercut from hell in December. He's 9-1 and all his wins have been by KO or TKO. And I'm really looking forward to seeing Salikhov again. I hyped him up before his UFC debut but it was a bit of a flop. He lost to Alex Garcia by submission on the Bisping vs Gastelum undercard in Shanghai. But his striking credentials are ridiculous. His kickboxing record is listed as 185-13-1. His nickname is 'King Of Kung Fu' for fuck's sake. He's 13-2 so far in MMA with his two losses being submissions. So it's clear he's got issues in the grappling. But against a banger like Alhassan, I think this could be dynamite however long it goes. Waterson vs Casey could be a good little battle. Waterson has a fun striking style with her karate background and she's got a pretty slick submission game as well. She's suffered a bit from being undersized for the division but skills-wise she's quality. She's lost her last two fights to Torres and Namajunas so she really needs a W here or it might be time to go back down to atomweight and back to Invicta. Casey's alright but with a 7-5 record, someone of Waterson's quality and experience should be beating her. I like the Okami vs Lima pairing. Glad to see they're giving Okami another shot after he stepped in on short notice for them against OSP last year. He's back down at welterweight for this, where he's done pretty well outside the UFC. I'd like to see him win this and go on one last run in the UFC. I like Dhiego Lima but much prefer his brother. Bellator definitely got the better Lima. Absolutely love this show. It's got a little bit of a WEC feel to it to me for some reason.
  2. Boxing Thread

    Anyone catch the BT show? The Zelfa Barrett vs Ronnie Clarke fight is well worth going out of your way to see. Really enjoyed that.
  3. Saturday 17th March the UFC returns to the O2 in London. FIGHT PASS MAIN CARD Fabricio Werdum vs Alexander Volkov Jimi Manuwa vs Jan Blachowicz Tom Duquesnoy vs Terrion Ware Leon Edwards vs Peter Sobotta FIGHT PASS PRELIMS Stevie Ray vs Kajan Johnson John Phillips vs Charles Byrd Danny Roberts vs Oliver Enkamp Jack Marshman vs TBA Hakeem Dawodu vs Danny Henry Paul Craig vs Magomed Ankalaev Mark Godbeer vs Dmitriy Sosnovskiy Alex Reyes vs Nasrat Haqparast Anyone on here going to this? When the date was first announced I was planning to get tickets, back when the rumours were that this card would be headlined by Bisping's retirement fight and/or a Darren Till fight. I must admit I'm a bit underwhelmed with how the card has turned out so didn't bother. There is some decent stuff on there but not really enough for me to justify a trip to London and the cost of hotels and stuff like that. This is more a case of whack it on the telly with a few drinks and a munch. Anyway... All that said, I do really like the Werdum vs Volkov pairing. It's an cool matchup of styles. Werdum is in kind of a weird position at the moment. He's basically fought all the top guys in the division already. Won some, lost some, had the title, lost the title. There have been nights where he's looked like the best heavyweight on the planet and other nights where it looks like he can't be arsed. He seems to be in the mode now of just staying active and fighting pretty much whoever. In his last 2 fights he fought twice in about a 5 week span. He quickly submitted Walt Harris on last minute notice in October. Then he stepped in again on short notice in November and outpointed Marcin Tybura in Australia. He's certainly been fighting down a level or two from championship level but he's looked good and it's probably helped him in terms of getting his swagger back after losing the title the way he did against Miocic in 2016. Volkov is a big old fucker at 6'7" and has a very solid 29-6 record. He's a good striker and is coming off back-to-back name wins over Stefan Struve and Roy Nelson. I'd say he's a bit of a darkhorse at heavyweight. Nobody really talks about him but he's a threat and if he beats Werdum here that all changes. Obviously if it hits the floor that's Werdum's playground, Volkov will be looking to avoid the grappling at all costs. On the feet it's a tossup to me. Volkov is probably more of a traditional technical striker but Werdum has a way of outstriking guys who are supposed to be better strikers. And he's got form for beating big guys too with the two schoolings of Travis Browne. Interesting fight. Manuwa vs Blachowicz 2 is a rematch I could've happily done without, to be honest. The first fight was back in 2015 on the undercard of Cro Cop vs Gonzaga 2 in Poland. Manuwa took a decision that night. I remember fuck all of it. I don't know what it is but I just can't get into Blachowicz. He's like a Polish Bader or something. Good fighter but his fights generally do nothing for me. Manuwa is a fighter I like. He got KO'd in less than a minute by Volkan Oezdemir in July and we haven't seem him since so he's looking to bounce back in style here. And at 38, he doesn't exactly have bags of time left despite being a late starter. He went 14-0 with 14 finishes at the start of his career but he seems to have found his level now. He's lost every time he's stepped in with the top boys but he's beat everyone below that. I think people are a bit harsh on Manuwa sometimes. Before the Volkan loss he'd knocked out OSP and Corey Anderson in brutal fashion. He's good, he's just not champion material. Doesn't mean he's shite, there's a grey area. I'm hoping he KOs Blachowicz here. Duquesnoy vs Ware could be good. Duquesnoy looks like a prospect at 24 years old. He's got a 15-2-1 record, trains at Jackson's and seems to have a lot of potential. He dropped a split decision to Cody Stamann in his last fight but he has all the ingredients and the coaches around him to help him rebound. Terrion Ware (who I really hope is the son of Koko B?) is a guy I know very little about. I only know him as the guy who lost to Sean O'Malley recently. He's 17-7. Seems like a fight designed to rebuild Duquesnoy but we'll see how it pans out. Edwards vs Sobotta is UFC London's ***WAND'S ONE TO WATCH***. It's a fight that will probably slip under most peoples' radars and I almost overlooked it myself but I think it could steal the show. Leon Edwards is 14-3 out of my neck of the woods in Birmingham. In fact, he's billed as being from Erdington which is where my sister lives. He's still only 26 years old and has won his last 4 fights. Among those 4 fights are wins over Vicente Luque (who I rate) and Bryan Barberena (the man who ruined Sage Northcutt's undefeated record). He also submitted Albert Tumenov who is a bit of an animal. He's actually a quality fighter, he just needs that signature win. Sobotta won't be it but he's a solid opponent in his own right. He's been around ages, his original UFC run was back in 2009ish but he didn't do well back then going 0-3 before being cut. He's 4-1 so far on this stint though and looked better than ever stopping Ben Saunders in his last outing. I really like this fight. I think it's come at a time where both guys are better than they've ever been and they're both hungry to break into the bigger fights. Ray vs Johnson is another sleeper fight on this show for me. Stevie Ray got finished by Paul Felder last time out but he was starting to climb before that with wins over Joe Lauzon and Ross Pearson. And Kajan Johnson is Canadian, fights out of Tristar and has won his last 3 fights. I think these two should match up for an entertaining scrap. Undercard might be good but I'm not really familiar enough with a lot of the names there to be getting particularly excited by it. Hakeem Dawodu is worth a gander. He's unbeaten at 7-0-1 with 6 knockouts, 26 years old, all his fights so far coming under the WSOF banner. I've seen bits and pieces and he looks good. Paul Craig is back in action as well, looking to get back in the win column after suffering back-to-back knockout losses to Tyson Pedro and Khalil Rountree. He was 9-0 before those defeats and being talked up as one for the future. Hopefully he can get back on track here because I like what I've seen of him so far. So yeah, not the best of shows we've had over here but there's a few points of interest there.
  4. The new MMA general news, events and thoughts thread

    Brown vs Condit is a funny one. They've both been flirting with retirement for a while now. I actually wouldn't mind seeing them go out and have one last crazy war and then both leave their gloves on the canvas. It'd be a cool way for both to go out. They both couldn't really pick a better farewell fight opponent than each other. On paper they're tailor made for each other to have an incredible fight.
  5. NJPW World (Streaming Service)

    Is he? I'll give that a watch. I remember really liking their match at Starrcade 96.
  6. NJPW World (Streaming Service)

    Thanks chaps. I'll have to give that AJ match a look, didn't know they'd wrestled. I'll look for that NXT match as well just for the novelty of seeing Liger in a WWE ring. I'm not expecting early 90s Liger or anything, was just curious how he looked these days. I guess I assumed he must have retired by now.
  7. The new MMA general news, events and thoughts thread

    Funny you mention that @WeeAl I was going to get the thread up for that FOX show (and the London show) sometime over the weekend and the card as a whole is just outstanding. The one-two punch of Poirier vs Gaethje and Condit vs Brown on top would be enough for me but the card under that has filled out very nicely as well. As for Nunes vs Pennington, my initial thought was 'why Pennington?' But when you look at the division, Nunes has beat almost everyone else either on the way up or as champion. And in fairness to Pennington she's won 4 in a row, including retiring Miesha Tate in her last fight. She's as deserving as anyone of a shot. Problem is I don't see her having anything for Nunes, which obviously takes a lot of the interest out of it. Hopefully Nunes wins and Cat Zingano wins at 222 and they can set up Nunes vs Zingano 2 over the summer. The first fight was great and Zingano won so they've got some history there.
  8. NJPW World (Streaming Service)

    This is a bit random. Haven't watched Japanese wrestling in donkey's years but I was big into it for a while so I skim through this thread from time to time. I don't have a clue about much of anything though and I'm not familiar with most of the names mentioned. Got to say though, I'm a bit surprised to see that Jushin Liger is still going. How's he looking these days and has he been working this whole time without any significant layoffs? What a run that gimmick must've had. He's been doing the Liger thing longer than The Undertaker gimmick's been going, hasn't he? You'd think a guy who worked that Junior heavy style so many years would've fallen to bits a long time ago. Has he had any standout matches I could check out over the last say 5-10 years or am I best to leave the memories be?
  9. The new MMA general news, events and thoughts thread

    Fucking hell. Say what you want about Daley but he'll fight absolutely anyone. You couldn't really get two more opposite fights for him. Fitch is a bit of a nightmare matchup considering Daley's wrestling allergy but I think MVP is a great fight and one I can definitely see Semtex winning.
  10. UFC Fight Night: Cerrone vs Medeiros - Feb 18

    Yeah it's almost a shame with Vick. He had some real momentum coming off stopping Duffy on the MSG card but Trinaldo has always been a hard guy to look good against. Trinaldo is one of the unsung guys in the division for me. Always a tough night's work but he's not what you'd call a 'name' so he's more risk than reward as an opponent. A win over Trinaldo in any fashion is a good win in my eyes but I can see why the crowd weren't into it. Hopefully Vick's next fight will be more in line with how he looked against Duffy and Polo Reyes and he can start to climb again. Actually, I wouldn't mind seeing Cerrone vs Vick if Cerrone decides to move back down to 155 like was rumoured. I think that's a great fight, it gives Vick the name he's been after and Cerrone will probably take the fight just because he always wants to stay active and he's always been the type to fight whoever. It ticks all the boxes for everyone as far as I can see.
  11. The new MMA general news, events and thoughts thread

    Yeah, it's all speculation until they close the cage door. Nobody's right or wrong. The fact that we've came up with so many counterpoints to each others' points just shows that McGregor vs Ferguson would be a fascinating clash of styles. And yeah, I love those fight announcents. Especially Jacare vs Gastelum. Interested to see how Kevin Lee looks as well. Can't stand him and I was one of his biggest detractors on here saying he was unproven and stuff going into the Ferguson fight but I thought he fought valiantly that night. Especially considering he had staph infection in the lead up to the fight. It was his biggest fight to date, against his toughest opponent to date, and everything went wrong but he still looked really good in that first round. I'm a bit more of a believer now. But my biggest issue with Lee was everyone (and mostly Schaub. Again) bigging him up as this next huge superstar/next McGregor etc. I thought that was bollocks and way premature and I still wholeheartedly stand by that.
  12. The new MMA general news, events and thoughts thread

    While I can see your point on Ferguson taking more damage recently, the flipside argument to that is that Ferguson's been active. Plus the damage thing, valid as the point is, might not be the strongest argument to make. You can't always go on stuff like that. If you based fights on that then an Eddie Alvarez coming off a first round KO over RDA should've smoked a McGregor coming off back-to-back wars with Diaz. McGregor isn't exactly known for his slick defence either, he gets hit a fair amount himself. I definitely agree that I'd give McGregor the better shot of scoring the deathblow in a shootout but it's not like Ferguson's easy to put away either plus his striking offence is good enough that McGregor will need to be mindful of what's coming back at him. And if McGregor doesn't put him away early on, I'd expect Ferguson to run away with it down the stretch. He didn't fade one bit against RDA over 25 minutes and that was in Mexico at high altitude and RDA is an animal. I think people sell Ferguson short way too often personally. I'm not sure who I'd pick to win that fight. I think the first 2 rounds would be a bit of a tossup, slightly leaning towards McGregor, anything beyond that I'd strongly favour Ferguson. Especially when McGregor starts getting tired and sloppy, that's when Ferguson ups the pace and overwhelms opponents and usually you end up tangled up and tapping to something. I think it's a way more interesting fight than a lot of people make out. I've also seen people throw out the point of 'well when Conor comes back to MMA he's going to have all this new boxing training under his belt' and that kind of thing. I think that's shite myself, with a dash of wishful thinking. Admittedly it's mostly Dickface Scuaub trotting this out but I've seen it a few times here and there now. He had one training camp. The camp sounded disjointed and a bit of a shambles and he barely brought anyone new in. His camp mostly consisted of the usual SBG crew. And Paulie Malignaggi, and yeah that didn't exactly work out. Sparring Artem Lobov in boxing gloves and a ring isn't going to be a massive difference from sparring Artem Lobov in MMA gloves and a cage. People expecting McGregor to return to MMA looking like an Irish prime Manny Pacquiao are going to be disappointed. It takes more than one boxing camp to make any significant gains in that area. Just like Bigfoot Silva won't have gained masses of kickboxing skills because he fought Rico in GLORY. Proper dopey talk.
  13. The new MMA general news, events and thoughts thread

    I've always felt like Ferguson is a tricky fight for McGregor. He's granite tough, pushes the pace constantly, has a unique style that won't be easy to replicate in sparring and his ground game is phenomenal, on top and off his back. I'd go as far as to say I think he's a better version of Nate Diaz, just smaller. I wouldn't count McGregor out at all though. Ferguson is hittable as we've seen in a bunch of his fights and if there's a flaw to his game maybe it's that he's too up for a scrap. That could play into McGregor's hands, it'd certainly present him with more opportunities to catch him. It's a great fight on paper, I really hope it comes off. I'd say McGregor vs Khabib is the sexier fight build up wise. I really think the contrast between those two could provide some magic. But, although I'd always give him a punchers chance, I get the feeling McGregor gets completely mauled if he comes up against Khabib. For pure fight quality I think McGregor vs Ferguson is where it's at. The build up to that could be fun in that Ferguson's shitness at trash talk would mean McGregor would annihilate him on the mic, but the fight itself I think would be a fucking corker.
  14. The new MMA general news, events and thoughts thread

    Yeah, there hasn't been much of that talk at all on here for ages where McGregor's concerned, has there? Seems like people are just wishing he'd come back and stop piss arsing about. I suppose a good sign is it's gone relatively quiet on the McGregor front recently. There was a time a few months back where it seemed like barely a week would pass without him popping up on the MMA news sites for doing something boneheaded. The bollocks on that UFC Poland show last year where Marc Goddard had to tell him to sit his arse down because he was being a bellend at cageside. Then he was going around calling Andre Fili a 'faggot' backstage on same show. Then making a tit of himself on that Bellator show where he hopped the cage. There was all that ridiculousness about him battering some Irish gangster's old man in a pub. Then there was him showing up to court in a tracksuit and acting like a bit of a twat coming out of court on that video that was doing the rounds. There's probably a few other examples I'm forgetting. He's squeezed a fair bit of 'being a knob' into the few months since the Mayweather fight. But the last couple of months, outside of the odd tweet, we've barely heard a peep out of him. And I think that's because, like Colin Bollocks mentioned, he seems to have got focused on training hard again. Hopefully he sticks with it and keeps himself busy because Conor McGregor with a load of money and free time plus nothing to train for or focus on, well it doesn't seem to go very well from the glimpses we've seen. If I was John Kavanagh I'd lock the cunt in the gym.
  15. The new MMA general news, events and thoughts thread

    How much is 'more' though? He's not going to be getting Mayweather paydays again. Mayweather is the only man in the history of combat sports who's generated that kind of payday. The UFC will obviously want McGregor back badly but they aren't going to bankrupt themselves to keep meeting his demands. He'll still be getting millions anytime he fights from here on in. That's on top of the millions and millions he's already banked. Nobody's expecting him to fight on the cheap but at the same time he's got to realise he's simply not getting the really ridiculous money against anyone but Mayweather. Because there isn't another Mayweather. The UFC might well pay him more but you know what McGregor's like. He'll demand even more after that and more still after that. At some point they're going to decide his asking price is too high and it's more profitable to just not bother. Asking for a bigger piece of the pie is one thing. McGregor wants the whole pie and seconds. I don't blame him for trying but he's got to be real at some point and decide if he actually wants to fight again or not. He will, I'm sure. He's still too young and too good to walk away now and he's making all the right noises now that suggest a comeback is imminent. But he needs to know where the balance is of asking for more and pricing himself out because all this time he's sitting out is eating into his prime years as a fighter.