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UFC 331: Van vs Pantoja 2 - Sep 19 šŗšø
wandshogun09 replied to wandshogun09's topic in MMA Forum
Couldnāt see the usual graphic with the start times but according to Marcel Dorff the Fight Pass Prelims start, well now, from 10:30pm. Going with Pantoja, Tsarukyan, Superboy, Steveson and Baraniewski on the main card. Not particularly fussed about any of the results though apart from really hoping Sean Sharaf rips up the script and twats the rapist. -
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UFC 331: Van vs Pantoja 2 - Sep 19 šŗšø
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I wouldnāt put a ton of stock in Vanās win over Taira when predicting this fight myself but I can kind of see the logic just because Taira put Van in some bad positions in the grappling and Van was able to find the answers, get out of danger and finish Taira. It was by far Vanās best performance yet for me. So I can see why it mightāve made some people, who mightāve been on the fence, more confident in Van going into this rematch. Still, Taira isnāt Pantoja and until we actually see evidence of Pantojaās decline or age catching up to him, I find it difficult to pick against him. Thereās also the possibility that, even if Pantoja hasnāt declined, Van might just be that guy now. Weāll see. Really canāt wait for this fight. Gotta say as well, Iām loving Sean Sharaf bullying āLoopholeā Steveson in the buildup to their fight. Fully expecting Sharaf to lose but I feel like his job is kind of done already. I had a feeling he might be the one to call out Gable for his rapey past when he posted this a few weeks ago⦠Itās refreshing to see someone actually have the bollocks to bring it up, when you know the UFC really donāt want it mentioned. Especially during one of their press conferences. Fair play to Sharaf for not towing the company line. Stevesonās response has somehow made him come across as even more of a creep. He was actually smiling when Sharaf brought up the rape. Then had the nerve to say Sharaf is a ācowardā for bringing it up. A rapist calling an ex Marine a coward. Wrap your head around that one. He wouldnāt look at Sharaf during their weigh in face-off last night. Probably mostly a play on what Jones used to do but I genuinely think he also just doesnāt know how to handle the shit Sharaf is throwing at him because itās the truth. Iād love nothing more than to see Sharaf somehow chin him. Would be glorious. I know itās highly unlikely but itās not like Gable has fought smart in his fights up to now. Heās getting away with it so far but he looked well sloppy and reckless in his UFC debut. And my hope is that he comes in rattled from Sharaf calling out his depravity and runs into something nasty. I know thatās a pipe dream though. Loophole is gonna win. Wouldnāt be surprised at all if the UFC get rid of Sharaf immediately if/when he loses tonight as well. That wouldnāt be unwarranted, a loss here would put Sharaf at 0-3 in the UFC. But I think they might cut him to send a message to Loopholeās future opponents that itās probably not a good career move to bring up the rape stuff. -
UFC 331: Van vs Pantoja 2 - Sep 19 šŗšø
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It is a bit of a weird one. I get that Pantoja is getting up in age now but there were no signs of him declining before that first Van fight and that fight didnāt last long enough give us any indication of that either. Neither he or Van had established an advantage when the fight ended. It was over before it got going. So unless people have just decided that Pantojaās arm injury is gonna be the death knell of his career, Iām not sure why heās being counted out by so many people. I do also think the way Vanās last fight against Taira played out is a factor here though. If Van had waited and just gone straight into an immediate rematch with Pantoja after their first fight, Iām guessing itād be more of a 50/50 split or Pantoja might even be favoured. But with that Taira fight in between, I think Vanās performance against Taira gained him a lot of fans and believers though. Itās fight day and Iām still back and forth on it myself. Iāve gone Pantoja in the poll and I am slightly leaning that way but Van does seem to be improving all the time. -
Noche UFC: Silva vs Delgado - Sep 12 šŗšøš²š½
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Nah I thought him gassing was understandable because he absolutely emptied the tank trying to put McMillen away. Some of the best fights in MMA history saw guys gassing horribly. That doesnāt disqualify it for me at all. Plus, it has to be a contender at least. Iām struggling to think of many fights this year that were better or more entertaining. Fair point that the third round was a comedown but nothing was gonna match that bonkers round two. -
Noche UFC: Silva vs Delgado - Sep 12 šŗšøš²š½
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Youāve gotta watch that fight Egg. Seriously. One of the best of the year easily for me. On a side note, itās not a flattering comparison but I canāt look at McMillen without seeing serial killer Richard Ramirez⦠-
Noche UFC: Silva vs Delgado - Sep 12 šŗšøš²š½
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Did anyone watch this? I said in the opening post that I thought this looked like potentially one of the best Fight Night cards of the year. I think it mostly delivered. That Seattle card in March was the benchmark for me, but I honestly thought this surpassed it overall. Depends what you like, I suppose. There were a couple of fights dragging this one down a bit whereas that Seattle card was pretty much all at least decent. But I felt like the better fights on this were way better than the best stuff on the Seattle show. This one had three or four seriously fantastic fights and, in my opinion, a genuine FOTY contender as well. Loved this show. Jean Silva continues to be an absolute weirdo but itās weirdness you canāt turn away from. Whatās he on? Walks out crying, starts barking, then back to crying and standing there for ages singing to his entrance song while they were trying to check his mouthpiece and gloves etc. Once the cage door shuts though, itās undeniable heās got skills, even if he doesnāt exactly do things the conventional way. Thought this was a really good fight to end a night mostly full of them. On a lot of cards this would easily be your FOTN, here it was probably second or maybe even third. But I enjoyed it a lot. Thought Delgado gave a really good account of himself considering the jump in levels and the short notice. He was looking a bit of a handful early and I did start to think he might be able to just pick him apart with cleaner striking. Especially because Silva wasnāt really throwing anything and seemed to be struggling to get in striking range. Delgado started well with the knockdown and definitely won the first round. Silva came back strong in the second round just by being his relentless bulldog self. Worked much better than him playing the cautious game in round one. Then the third round⦠All over. By this point Silva seemed to have his range and timing figured out and Delgado was on the retreat. The finish was a beauty. Dropped him, jumped on him and ended it with a one armed rear naked choke kind of using his chin to secure it on the other side. The post-fight scenes were odd. No shock where Silvaās concerned. But that bit when he jumped the fence and was frantically ripping his gloves off and barking, then aggressively handed them to Hunter Campbell, Hunter looked legit scared for a minute there. His life flashed before his eyes in that moment. Like I said, such a weirdo. And unlike most MMA ācraziesā, I donāt think itās an act with Jean. If it is and heās that good of an actor then heās wasted on MMA. I donāt think any of it is fake with him. Proper Diego Sanchez vibes. Not sure whatās next. My initial thought was maybe they try to rebook that Yair Rodriguez fight that was supposed to happen here. But I donāt know how long Yairās gonna be out and, even if itās not long, you canāt really rely on him to show up anyway. Looking at the rankings, Aljamain Sterling and Lerone Murphy are the two guys above him who would be fresh fights and theyāre not currently booked. But I kind of feel like they might match them two against each other so I donāt know where that would leave Silva. You never know with him. He might just take a fight at 155 or something. Iād like to see him stay in one weight class for a bit though and see how far he can go. Moreno vs Morales was whatever. I was still coming down from McMillen vs Rahiki when this was on and I canāt say I paid it much attention. Didnāt look like anything special but Moreno got the win and he really had to win this one given Morales complete lack of status in the division. I know he won TUF but what does that even mean in 2026? I still think Moreno is on a fairly significant slide though. Heās not completely shot but I donāt think heās that far off it becoming really sad to watch now. Mad talking like this about a guy whoās only 32 but itās been almost 10 years since he made his UFC debut and heās crammed a lot of hard battles into that decade. Tommy McMillen vs Marwan Rahiki was insanity. I donāt know about anyone else but I think this was legitimately a FOTY contender. I thought thereād at least be some talk about this fight in here by now. If you guys missed it, Iād highly recommend getting on it. Wasnāt pretty at times but fuck me it was wildly entertaining and edge of the seat stuff throughout. I thought McMillen might fight a more tactical fight when he immediately went to his wrestling early in the first round but that didnāt last long. They both landed some good stuff the rest of that round. That second round might be Round Of The Year though. Jesus. It was worse than this. The gif doesnāt do it justice. How McMillen weathered the storm I donāt know. Obviously has an insane chin. He ate some horrible shots here, head snapped back the lot, then ate more while still badly rocked, and still somehow survived. And not only did he survive that round, he came back and ended the round on top going for the DāArce choke. Definitely lost the round but he answered some serious questions in this round on his chin, cardio and heart. Because he really had no right to be making round three after that arse kicking. Then in the third⦠Fuck me. Credit to Rahiki for surviving that, especially at that point in the fight when he seemed gassed. But it led to McMillen controlling a lot of the last round on the ground. Rahiki defended well off his back, despite getting caught in bad spots over and over. His grappling defence looked a lot better than his striking defence. Both of them were basically all offence, no defence on the feet. It made for a stupidly fun fight but itās something both are gonna need to tighten up. In the end, McMillen just seemed to have more in the gas tank. He was absolutely relentless. And also he had the grappling to fall back on, which made a big difference at crucial times here. Definitely a McMillen win. Absolutely barmy stuff. Yeah I loved this fight. Two young, fearless, undefeated guys and they went out there and fought like it. They fought like they didnāt know how to lose. Sometimes when you get two unbeaten fighters facing off, theyāre both so concerned with protecting that perfect record that it becomes a bit of a nothing happening snoozer. Not with these two. Looking forward to seeing much more of them. I want to dislike McMillen, he seems like such a goofy twat. But if heās gonna keep fighting like this then I canāt help but have a soft spot. Canāt be doing with all the āgangstaā talk though. Alexa Grasso surprised me. I rate her and usually enjoy watching her but I really had a bad feeling about this one. I felt like Fiorot would probably be able to get her āclinch and do nothingā thing going and basically out strength Grasso. But Grasso came out strong right from the off and I think it wasnāt what Fiorot was expecting. She did a great job putting Fiorot on the back foot early on and her striking looked on point. I did think Fiorot came back into it in the third round and I had her winning that round but by then she was already 0-2 down and needed a finish. I probably sound overly critical because this was a good performance from Grasso and thereās reason to be positive. But I do wonder how this wouldāve played out as a five rounder. Fiorot was getting back in it by the third and Iām not sure Grasso couldāve maintained that pace she had in the first couple of rounds over 25 minutes. But whatever. Chuffed with this result. Not sure what they do with her next though. Sheās at #2 now on both sets of rankings, with only Valentina Shevchenko and Natalia Silva above her. But obviously weāve got this Silva vs Wang Cong mess for the vacant title to sort out first, and then you have to assume Shevās gonna get an immediate title shot on her return. Grasso is either gonna have to sit out ages or fight down in rank. Blaydes vs Waldo was wank. Didnāt expect any more from it though really. I was just happy Blaydes got the win. Bollocks to Waldo. Iām glad that brief hype train he was building late last year/early this year has been derailed and people now remember that actually he was always quite shit. Nice to see Blaydes back in the win column though, even though it was an awful fight and even though his career is going nowhere. Martinez vs Ige didnāt do much for me. Another solid win for Martinez and it wasnāt a bad performance by any stretch. But I donāt know. Thereās just something missing there for me as heās stepped up in levels. And this was a 35 year old Ige making his first cut down to Bantamweight. I donāt wanna be too harsh on Martinez, he won this one clearly, but if heās gonna go on to be anything special, youād expect him to shine more in fights like this. Similar thing with his last fight against Chito as well. Chito had never looked more checked out and disinterested yet Martinez seemed content to do pretty much the bare minimum to just coast to a decision. Elliott vs Chairez was another banger. Up until this point in the night, I had this as FOTN, but obviously that changed when McMillen and Rahiki got out there. Cracking fight this was though. It was looking bad for Elliott for most of the first round. That first big right hand from Chairez looked like it had him buzzed for a minute but Elliott recovered well enough to the point he dropped Chairez towards the end and he finished that round strong. He still probably lost that first round but his toughness and experience pulled him through and I thought he came back to win the last two rounds. Brilliant fight. If you skipped it, get it watched. On this forum especially, I think people will appreciate Elliottās tweet here from Saturday. That was just hours before his fight 𤣠Tim tackling the important issues. On a serious note, Elliottās not the most consistent and heāll always fall short against the top guys but his longevity fighting at this level is crazy really, especially considering the division heās in. Heās gonna turn 40 in December and heās still fighting like this as a Flyweight? One of the real unsung guys on the roster for me. Really enjoyed Bahamondes vs Salikhov. Wasnāt fought at a blistering pace but there were some really good striking exchanges in this one as youād expect. Salikhov just seemed to really struggle with getting in range and getting past Bahamondes limbs. Salikhov is just a hard old bastard. He took some nasty shots in this one and just kept coming forward. Cormier actually raised a worthwhile point for a change, talking about Salikhov hurting his right arm. It definitely looked like he did and there were big chunks of the fight when he barely even threw it. Decent win for Bahamondes. Didnāt even realise this was his Welterweight debut either. Yousri Belgaroui claimed another victim. This time it was Djorden Santos in the first round. It was always gonna be a squash this. And Santos stepped in on short notice replacing fatty Gastelum. Fair play to Santos for jumping in. Belgaroui just smashed him though. The least impressive of his three UFC wins so far just because of who the opponent was but that wasnāt Belgarouiās fault. And if there is something to take from this win, Santos was a durable opponent if nothing else. Heād only ever been finished once before this and that was against Baisangur Susurkaev by submission. And it took Susurkaev until the third round to get Santos out of there. Heād never been put away by strikes before and Belgaroui goes and blows the doors off him in a round. Good stuff. Really like Belgaroui. Tommy Gantt had a strong showing and stays undefeated. Canāt get too carried away because Klose is no spring chicken and was coming off a layoff. But Gantt did what he needed to do and capped it off with a sweet reverse triangle⦠Not sure what to think of the post-fight handbags. My first thought was that Gantt came off as a dick for getting in Kloseās face after heād already finished him. But then I remembered that Klose has seemed a bit of a prick for years so when Gantt said it was a receipt for Klose talking shite at the weigh in, it tracked and Gantt gets a pass IMO. Cormier leaving the commentary booth to corner Gantt was ridiculous. If itās happened in the UFC before then I canāt remember it. Seeing his big fat head and him in the suit in the corner was weird. Rongzhu vs Rafa Garcia was, yet again, another really fun fight. Iāve been bigging Rongzhu up on here for a while as a real highlight of the prelims on any card he appears on and Iāll continue to. He comes to scrap every time. And Garcia was game and made a dogfight of it, so it was really entertaining to watch. Rongzhu just proved the better striker in the end. Get on the Rongzhu bandwagon if youāve never watched him. Iād recommend typing his name in on Fight Pass and binging his last few fights as well. Never gonna make a dent in the rankings but heās always worth a watch. Sean King had about as perfect a UFC debut as you could possibly wish for. Unless Iām forgetting something obvious, we havenāt had a proper slam KO in quite a while, have we? And this was both beautiful and scary at the same time⦠Christ almighty. Love the way he held the arm on the way down so Rosas couldnāt even post to break his fall even a little bit. Vicious little sod. 36 seconds is all it took. Instantly reminded me of Frank Shamrock murdering Igor Zinoviev with a brutal slam way back in the late 90s. Although Shamrock did it even quicker. Donāt know if weāve posted it on here before but Zinoviev actually went on to become Jeffrey Epsteinās bodyguard later. So that KO has aged like Salma Hayek. But yeah, incredible introduction to the big stage for King. And on the other end, a disastrous debut for Rosas. Thought Regina Tarin looked good again in the prelim opener. Didnāt get the finish which, considering the opponent was bang average JJ Aldrich, not a blow away performance. But itās worth remembering Tarin is still only 21 and a work in progress. The main thing for me is the effort is there. She really goes for it and makes her fights entertaining, which you sadly canāt say about a lot of the current crop of women fighters on the roster. -
Itās 100% confirmed now as well. Pico vs Keita is on. Marcel Dorffās tweeted it.
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Mike Heck from MMA Fighting has tweeted that Arnold Allen is out of the Aaron Pico fight at UFC 333 next month. Nothingās been confirmed yet but Losene Keita was teasing the other day that heās stepping in on short notice to fight a Top 15 opponent. All adds up. Iād fucking love to see Pico vs Keita. Arguably a better fight than the Allen one, or at least just as good.
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Plus, itās not like this was the first time Gaethje properly busted someoneās face up and made a mess of them. So weāre expected to believe heās got away with loading his gloves for years and somehow bypassing the pre-fight checks? And thatās just four examples. Gaethjeās got that weird power where it doesnāt really put guys out with one shot but itās just constant thudding mallets over and over that might not knock you unconscious but hurt enough and cause enough damage to change your face. A knockout would probably be kinder.
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Itās weird. Gaethje vs Topuria might well have been the FOTY so far but I donāt wanna see an immediate rematch, and I donāt think itās warranted either. Topuria didnāt just get stopped, he got his face broken to the point his own brother had to pull him out and get the fight called off. It was nowhere near the one-sided demolition job for Gaethje that Iām seeing a lot of fans (Topuria haters) act like it was. Topuria very nearly had him out of there earlier in the fight. But the way it ended, I donāt think we need to see it again straight away. Plus it wasnāt like Topuria had some long, legendary reign as champ at 155 either. I could kind of understand it if heād gone on some GSP-like run with the belt but this was literally his first defence after winning a vacant title. To me itās straightforward, Gaethje has said heās taking the rest of the year off anyway. Tsarukyan vs Ruffy goes down in two days. If Tsarukyan squashes Ruffy, as most expect, do Gaethje vs Tsarukyan for the strap in early 2027. And in the meantime, do Topuria vs Pimblett, maybe in December. Then have the winners of those two fights face off for the gold. That should take us into the summer. But of course TKO donāt care. No long term vision whatsoever, all theyāre arsed about is getting that fast money and they probably think Gaethje vs Topuria 2 is bigger than the other options. It probably is but then again theyāre not even on PPV anymore in the US so itās not even an obvious money grab. I donāt know. I like my scenario much better but I suspect weāre getting the immediate rematch. As for the glove tampering thing, load of shite. Topuria actually put out a really classy response initially after the loss back in June. Donāt know what this bollocks is now, must be the only way he can think to try to goad Gaethje into the rematch because Gaethje has been saying heās not interested in it up to now.
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And on top of that, unlike those guys, heās a legit Heavyweight who couldnāt make 205 if he chopped a limb off. All those attributes plus actual Heavyweight punching power. Jones didnāt want any of it. Like you say, itās not even that I think Jones couldnāt beat Aspinall. There were enough unanswered questions and things we hadnāt seen from him yet to give me some doubts. But weāll never know now because Jones fannied out of it, turned down the biggest payday of his life and scurried off into retirement. I do think Iād have favoured Aspinall to clip him early if they fought though. Jones has been past his peak a lot longer than people like to admit. He hasnāt looked like his prime self since the latter days of his 205 run. The second Cormier and second Gustafsson fights in 2017/18 were the last times we saw prime Jones, in my opinion. And even those performances have asterisks attached to them due to PED fuckery surrounding those specific fights. Weāre coming up on a decade of Jones being past his best and, while that was still enough to get him over the line against the opposition heās faced, I think a younger, fresh, big, quick and powerful Heavyweight like Aspinall wouldāve got to him. People forget that, as washed up as Stipe was when they fought, old and slow as fuck Stipe was still catching him at times. If 2024 Stipe was able to find the odd opening to lay gloves on him, I have a hard time imagining Aspinall not catching him early. Of course if it went long, thatās a different story and those questions I had on Aspinall come into play. But people often get hung up on the prime versions of these guys when predicting a fight, and that guy hasnāt existed since 2018. Same going into Holloway vs McGregor 2 recently, the amount of people I saw acting like 2015 McGregor was gonna show up was hilarious. In the end, I just think the timing of when fights happen and paths cross is so huge in combat sports. I think Aspinall was the wrong man at the wrong time for Jones and, despite all Jones bluster and bullshit, he knew it.
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Left $30 million on the table as well. He saw something that spooked him with Aspinall. Thereās no other reason why youād pass on that kind of payday otherwise. And 99% of fighters would still take a fight that they didnāt fancy for that kind of money. But Jones is so fragile and obsessed with being able to say heās never lost that he bottled it. Yet now heās tweeting agreeing with people saying Aspinall is faking the injury. Aspinallās the pussy apparently. Not the man who ducked Ngannou and Aspinall for years and only resurfaced when it was safe. Genuinely think Iād root for Frank Mir over him at this point š¤£
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Heās probably likely to do something with MVP because he was supposed to fight on that Rousey vs Carano show on Netflix in May. Wouldnāt be surprised if Coker swoops in either though. If his strategy was to make himself look like a complete joke at the end of his career, have a farce of a cherry pick fight against a shot Stipe and be a total coward running from the Aspinall fight, yeah he played it perfectly. More Jones is never a good thing. If heās not fighting Aspinall or Ngannou, Iād rather he just fuck off and never come back. And it doesnāt look like either of those fights are ever happening now. Funny how heās suddenly interested in a return now the guy to beat is Ciryl Gane, who he already subbed in a minute. Just further proves the point that he didnāt really wanna retire at all, he just really didnāt wanna fight Aspinall. Plus, even the āmaybe heāll mess up and get chinnedā thing, who of the current shower of shite is even gonna chin him? Heās gonna come back, squash someone like Derrick Lewis or Tai Tuivasa, wins that add not a single thing to his legacy at all, and his fans will go āheās the GOAT! Itās not even up for debate anymore!ā Like wins over guys like that cement that in any way. Pure ājust go awayā heat with me. Heās awful.
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According to Gable Steveson, Jon Jones wants to come back. Conveniently the day after Tom Aspinall vacated the title. Canāt stand this slime ball.
