Devon Malcolm

They haven't really got any choice but to issue a statement like that. They're sticking to their guns. They haven't really got anything left to lose and they're clinging on to the faith of those City fans who either don't give a shit (there are a lot) or who believe the club's done no wrong. If they were to come out and say "Yes, we accept the verdict and the report" then it could speed up the sanctions against them. This way they're delaying what seems to be the inevitable. I was going to say it's a shame there doesn't seem to be any City fans on here anymore but then I realised that nobody really wants a TapOut Tapes return.

My natural default is to think like you and that they'll get away with or it'll be a slap on the wrist etc. Then I read the report. There's just no way they are not hit by a very large punishment. If they weren't, then all the other teams affected by what they did won't stand for it at all and let it pass. It's all far bigger than I think anybody realistically expected and we haven't even started on individual and club claims yet, potential criminal investigations, and the probability that UEFA are going to sanction them too. A couple of years transfer ban and a suspended fine isn't going to happen here. What I'm looking forward to is watching what self-denial front City are going to put up when everyone returns from the international break and surrounding the Liverpool game. Their fans' behaviour is definitely going to be hilariously pathetic. I can't wait.

Didn't hear a word that David Ornstein said about the Man City stuff on The Atlantic podcast because of Kate Mason.

The Premier League murders them in that statement. Like, fucking hell. There really is a good chance they could be fucked. I love they timed this for the international break, too, so we actually have something to keep us entertained. This is great, this is all great.

Ahh who needs him.

Manor Solomon's interview was a fucking disgrace as well. Prick.

What also needs to be taken into consideration is that although the investigation only covers until 2018, there has to be some consideration taken for the years after that. They have continued to benefit from what they were doing those years, it's not like the club completely changed overnight, ripped everything up and started again. They are where they are because of what they were doing then. Even if they were expelled from the Premier League and Football League and dumped into the non-leagues, the financial fallout of this is almost impossible to calculate. Every club that's played against them in cups and league matches in that period has a genuine financial claim against them, both domestically and continentally. But then you also have individual claims based on contracts so many players and staff members have based on achievements. The potential costs are astronomical. There would have been a time where, even despite my allegiances past and present, I wouldn't have wanted them to stop existing. They're one of the great old football clubs in existence. But would anyone aside from their own fans, obviously, shed a tear if they were wound up tomorrow because of everything they've done and stood for the last nearly 20 years? No. Their presence in any fixtures, leagues and competitions from this point on is a mockery of the whole system. They need to become the new Bury or Darlington and start again anew from the bottom.

The first one was great, I wasn't as keen on the second. But by and large she's in duds. Could just be one of those actors who just enjoys working and chooses based on people rather than scripts, who knows. But she could have been a huge star by now. She's always really good.

The original with Noomi Rapace is much better. Samara needs to murder her agent. She's never in anything good.

If they send them to the North-West Counties league (division 1 - north) they can play Maine Road!

Saint Maud was brilliant. One of the great end shots of all time, too.

That's the one, ta!

What was that game that was posted on here where you had to pick a team to win the Premier League? I preferred that one to this 442 one and it's nothing to do with the fact I'm completely shit at it, honest.

Good little thriller, this. Used to get a lot of showings on BBC when I was younger, I think the hook with it when it came out was "Look, Mahoney in a serious film!" but Guttenberg's really good in it.

I think one of the scrambled Dutch channels (RTL5?) had WWE as well.

#PrayForCaleb

As soon as any discussion was had about him he'd pop up and start to defend himself and try and get himself over. Be amazed if he doesn't drop by in the next couple of days. Wonder if Samoa Joe remembers him.

RTL and for a while Vox had some WWE. Vox used to show the smaller shows (Superstars and Shotgun Saturday were they, at that time?) but also used to show 'exclusive' matches we didn't get over here. Fond memories of them censoring chair and weapons shots and then having shampoo adverts where the women were topless. In the middle of the afternoon.