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8 minutes ago, Vamp said:

Its like this country has just said "look, if the people dying can't wait for the vaccine why should we?" 

4x as many deaths as Vallance's "good outcome" now.

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Just been in the smaller of the two Tesco in Lincoln. Things were pretty much in stock apart from loo roll and pet food. Did see one guy at the till getting told by the checkout girl that he couldn't

I'll eventually work through all the messages but I'm safe. Thanks folks. I'm still an absolute mess but safe all the same. 

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4 hours ago, Your Fight Site said:

They most know something to prefer straight up cancelling flights four months in advance rather than holding onto my money.

They’ve only just received a £1.4bn bailout because they were in financial shit street. Had they not got the bailout then yeah, they’d have kept your money for as long as possible. 

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10 hours ago, johnnyboy said:

You almost have to go out of your way to not be a keyworker now.  "Stay home"

The company my friend works for have written approval from the government that their staff are key workers. Guess what they do? Store and deliver private wine orders for wealthy owners. 

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It’s a load of shit isn’t it. I noticed during the zoom meetings this week my daughters classroom has been growing and growing. There was a kid there on Friday who’s Dad is a minted accountant working from home and his Mum is on maternity leave. 

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Apologies that this is libraries related but there's a wonderful twitter exchange involving the leader of Richmond Council.

They promoted their reserve and collect service on twitter. Someone replied that just because you can invite people to use your service doesn't mean you should. The leader of the council replied "Nobody is being invited, we're just providing it for those who choose to use it." Its just so wonderfully pedantic.

"Just because we're promoting a service doesn't mean we're encouraging people to use it."

Wonder if that works with house parties. "I didn't invite them to my house for a party officer, I just provided them with knowledge that I had a house should they wish to use it." 

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10 hours ago, waters44 said:

It’s a load of shit isn’t it. I noticed during the zoom meetings this week my daughters classroom has been growing and growing. There was a kid there on Friday who’s Dad is a minted accountant working from home and his Mum is on maternity leave. 

Some i feel are treating it as a way to get rid of the kid for a bit, as free childcare of sort, its not on 

 

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Ralphy, do you have kids? I don't, so that's why I don't tend to get involved in any discussion/debate on closing schools because without first hand experience of it and its effects I know fuck all about it so keep my thoughts to myself.

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1 hour ago, Ralphy said:

Some i feel are treating it as a way to get rid of the kid for a bit, as free childcare of sort, its not on 

 

As a parent, I'll give you my honest experience on this:

School/nursery is the absolute last place I want to be sending my kids right now. Thankfully we have a furloughed mother in law (as part of our bubble) who is willing to look after them for a few days a week, and then my wife looks after them on the days she's not working.

Having had to deal with home schooling last time round when we were both working as well - it's a fucking nightmare. Absolutely destroyed us both because teaching is a full time job in itself, and then trying to hold down actual jobs too? I've never felt stress like it and I know my wife suffered so much from the pressure of trying to do her job to a good standard AND home school to a good standard. You don't want to let your work down. You don't want to let your kids down and have them fall behind either. But there's only so many hours in a day.

No one's asked to be in this situation. We're all doing what we can, but we all have breaking points and what we can cope with etc.

Personally the 'you don't give a shit about anyone if you're still sending your kids in' attitude that some people have (and I know you didn't say that) really isn't helpful to those that are struggling. Some people - especially key workers - really do need this kind of support.

We all have our own personal circumstances so (and I hope this comes across as polite and not argumentative) I think it's best that people aren't too judgey of the decisions others are making. It's never quite as clear cut as it looks, and it's far easier to judge when you're not going through it.

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7 minutes ago, Ralphy said:

Most of us on here have no first hand wrestling experience and we still comment about that, so whats really much different? 

That is a bollocks excuse mate. You can't compare them at all. 

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