The AEW Wednesday Night Dynamite Thread

[iPumaPants]

46 minutes ago, Joe Blog said:

Isn't it an open secret that Omega and Ibushi are a couple? Not that Kenny should have to disclose his sexuality if he doesn't want to but if he is due a run with the big belt there could be a huge chance for AEW to show their diversity by having an openly gay heavyweight champion.

Again I just want to stress that just because they can doesn't mean Kenny should nor should any person ever feel pressured into revealing their sexuality/gender etc just to help a company show their diversity. 

I heard the latest was Kenny had a girlfriend. Just hearsay though. 

I think Ibushi/Omega have had a relationship, or perhaps as close to it as you can get in a close friendship. Ibushi is quite open about being bisexual, no? Kenny, I believe, is less bothered by labels and just wants to be happy? I remember reading an article to that effect.

 

[HobowithaShotgun]

I remember hearing that Kenny was dating Hikaru Shida. Not sure if there's any truth to it.

[Chris B]

1 hour ago, Joe Blog said:

Isn't it an open secret that Omega and Ibushi are a couple? Not that Kenny should have to disclose his sexuality if he doesn't want to but if he is due a run with the big belt there could be a huge chance for AEW to show their diversity by having an openly gay heavyweight champion.

Again I just want to stress that just because they can doesn't mean Kenny should nor should any person ever feel pressured into revealing their sexuality/gender etc just to help a company show their diversity. 

Kenny's openly bisexual (has liked and responded to tweets about him being LGBTQ and has referenced it in BTE a few times in both a jokey and non-jokey way). While he and Ibushi haven't openly said they're an active couple, they've clearly set up their story as a long-term love story.

[Supremo]

2 hours ago, LaGoosh said:

Everyone around Vince seems to be a mentalist with the same views and attitude as him. I genuinely don't think WWE will be much different without him.

Going off the last twelve to eighteen months of NXT, I honestly think the main difference would be longer matches and more shitty melodrama.

*Looks at hands in disbelief*

Edited August 26, 2020 by Supremo

[simonworden]

13 hours ago, CavemanLynn said:

I know round my way a certain Mr Page has put a lot of female eyes on their product.

As handsome as he was in the 90's I didn't realise DDP was still such a draw for the ladies. Must be all the stretching he does and those pearly whites.

[SuperBacon]

I haven't really been that impressed with what I've seen of Moxley in AEW but fair enough for this.

Is this still something people care about? All I know is I used to have to walk an hour and a half round trip to buy one of these bad boys for £8.

 

[The King Of Swing]

So people know the FITE Vod of Dynamite goes chipmunk a few minutes into the opening match this week. No idea if it was a problem live or if it'll be sorted out later.

[LaGoosh]

The timing and production this week was all over the fucking place. Worst it's ever been.

Ok show. Matches were meh but all the promos and angles worked really well. Main event looked like it was really good except they ran a picture in picture ad break throughout pretty much the whole thing for some unknown insane reason. 

Edited August 28, 2020 by LaGoosh

[Hannibal Scorch]

Whilst I agree it wasn’t a particularly strong episode, I thought the contract signing was on of the best I’ve seen in years, and Moxley came across so brilliantly compared to his WWE run

[Supremo]

Yeah, a pretty average show this week. Still fun, but nothing spectacular.

MJF is going to rip the neck brace off, reveal the whole thing was a ruse, and violently attack Mox next week, surely? This can’t be the actual build for the PPV main event, can it? It’s so midcard.

Has there ever been a feud so spectacularly elevated by constant hardway blood as Matt Hardy vs. Sammy Guevara? It’s ten times the feud for both guys constantly smashing their heads in. I really hope they announce a Compound match for the Pay Per View.

It’s not what I would have done, but there’s no denying the return of fans helped loads. It was a genuinely great moment seeing Jericho grinning like a kid hearing them singing his song again.

Orange Cassidy sprinting was brilliant. I hope we see a replay of it next week.

Eddie Kingston is the best promo delivery in the business. Why has it taken this long for him to be signed to a national company?!

I didn't understand the lawn mower thing with the Dark Order. I'm assuming it's a in-joke from BTE? If that's the case they should either explain it properly, or preferably don't reference it at all because Dark Order shouldn't be a comedy act right now regardless of how funny they might be on BTE.

In terms of other negatives, I’m very worried Adam Page is turning heel when he’s the one man in this whole thing who needs to be a babyface. Also, that thing with the broken mirror was HBK melodrama at its worst. And finally, that Big Swole match was some of the worst shit I’ve seen in ages. International television. Shockingly bad. Is that Reba woman even trained? Did she win a competition or something?

Edited August 28, 2020 by Supremo

[RedRooster]

8 hours ago, The King Of Swing said:

So people know the FITE Vod of Dynamite goes chipmunk a few minutes into the opening match this week. No idea if it was a problem live or if it'll be sorted out later.

It's fixed now. 

I really enjoyed this week's show, I thought it was really strong from start to finish. Have they completely binned Excalibur though?

The gauntlet match was a lot of fun, and the Hangman Page development was really interesting. I hope there's more to this than "Page is insecure", but wherever this is going everyone played their parts brilliantly. 

Lance Archer is horrible on the mic, and I wish he'd stop whispering. The Roberts/Taz exchange was a little clunky, but I kind of liked how they both spoke over one another. That's what really happens in a real life dispute, you don't just stop and let the other person finish what they're saying. The Casino Battle Royale is shaping up to be quite interesting. I actually do want to see Cage and Archer square off. 

I hope Darby/Starks ends up being a singles match on the PPV though. 

I am slightly concerned the winner of that match will telegraph who wins Moxley/MJF, but we'll see. 

I thought the contract signing was strong, but I'm leaning further towards the right decision being a Moxley win. He's quietly become a brilliant character and champion and (PWI aside) he doesn't get enough credit for it. He really does feel like AEW's top guy, so credit to him for that. 

The Dark Order segment was a little rough, but once again I enjoyed it. Evil Uno's mic work was a little off, but Brodie Lee was pretty good. I liked Colt Cabana's disapproving facial expressions as Lee bullied the other members of the group. I'm looking forward to the eventual Cabana/Lee match, assuming that's what they're actually going to do. The build has been excellent. 

I'm really excited about All Out, it should be a lot of fun. 

[Angle_fan]

Wow. I came on here thinking that Thunder Rosa would be all over the thread. 

[RedRooster]

30 minutes ago, Supremo said:

And finally, that Big Swole match was some of the worst shit I’ve seen in ages. International television. Shockingly bad. Is that Reba woman even trained? Did she win a competition or something?

Yeah, that might actually have been the worst match ever to have aired on Dynamite. I was going to say "in AEW's history" until I remembered Michael Nakazawa vs. Alex Jebailey in the early days of the promotion. 

The Swole/Baker feud hasn't clicked for me at all. I have no idea how it started, and I don't really care about the conclusion. 

[CavemanLynn]

Another show of good-to-great promos and bad-to-good matches.

Not enough was made of the gauntlet match essentially meaning a team could fly up the rankings in one night. I think they missold Dustin's off game on commentary, putting it down to cardio rather than the fact his baby brother was hospitalised by the Dark Order less than a week ago. Then again, the whole match came a little out of the blue, and felt like little more than a preamble to the big Page/Bucks angle. There's no way Page is heel here - last week, FTR pushed that thought in Page's head that while the Bucks were near the titles, he was always going to be in their shadow. They played on his fear and got the Bucks out of the equation. Good job too, because I don't know if they'd not bothered miking up the ringsiders with punters back in, or if the face vs face dynamic wasn't clicking, but Bucks vs BFs was dying on its arse. It was also a shame the Page angle wasn't the finish, because the timing in FTR vs BFs seemed all off, first in what looked like confusion over an FTR blind tag that the ref took ages to ignore, and then the reverse figure 4 finish where Chuck finally remembered to go home. Plus points: Tully looking boss, and Cash Wheeler being my captain.

Lovely promo vid for the NWA vs AEW women's match. I think I'm one of the few people on this forum that didn't get round to watching Powerrr, but that video sold me on Thunder Rosa 100%. The contract signing, though low key, looked great with Shida in her kimono and Rosa in her Dia De Los Muertos paint, both brandishing belts. One picture tells all the story.

The AEW contract angle was rightly given more time to breath and played to both guys' strengths. MJF may be hammy, but I'll take that over anything. Some of the content got a bit juvenile, but they didn't dwell on it and that's the type of thing that would get under the skin of a whelp like Friedman anyway. Next week's match is a nice little wrinkle on the way to the PPV. I've been happy with this build - I don't see MJF winning, but the whole angle has given him a focus as well as experience working at the top end of the card. It's a great investment in a guy who'll be a big player there in a year or two.

8 man was a bit of a nothing cluster fuck. I get it's a filler, but I found myself getting bored waiting for something that wasn't a spot into a spot into a spot. The cameras clearly couldn't keep up with the pace and disorganisation too, missing some moments, but when even Penta is turning away from the camera into the next move before even finishing his catchphrase, it's pretty shite. Butcher keeps getting dragged into these races too, when you just want him to thump people. A good twinkly promo by Kingston to finish, but not a great match at all.

This is the second time Jake has got into a promo confrontation where he loses it, jabbering over everyone and forgetting who he is. Some people like the 'realism' but this is another instance where something doesn't quite work without a lot of crowd noise - when all you can hear is guys flubbing lines over a mic, it looks amateurish to me. I like my promos to build to a punchline. It also annoys me that it forces Lance, the supposed loose cannon monster, to hold back aging knocked-kneed Roberts, which affects his own aura. Tazz (who I will admit has grown on me due to his decent commentary last few weeks) did his best here, and both Starks and Cage looked good, specially Starks who got dropkicked out of his shoes by an electric Darby Allin.

The Dark Order continue to come together, going full-on smart mark dorks for their Exalted hero. Loved Brodie shitting on their indy fan boy chanting and his Cena-esque new suit, then putting his goons in their place so hard I almost felt sorry for Evil Uno. No clue what the lawnmower thing is about. Sky, Cardona, and NNs vs DO is OK filler, and hopefully Sky has a decent showing.

Skipped the whole last match, because I'm not particularly invested in the feud, and because I'm not fussed about ads for Popeyes or General Insurance.

[Chris B]

2 hours ago, Supremo said:

I didn't understand the lawn mower thing with the Dark Order. I'm assuming it's a in-joke from BTE? If that's the case they should either explain it properly, or preferably don't reference it at all because Dark Order shouldn't be a comedy act right now regardless of how funny they might be on BTE.

Ugh, yes it is. I'll explain below, but I totally agree. They've generally done a good job of keeping BTE and Dynamite separate, with BTE fleshing out stuff rather than having things need to be explained on Dynamite, so this feels like a mistake.

So, the lawn mower thing has been funny on BTE but is likely to lose a lot in the explaining. BASICALLY... The Elite was supposedly offered a big money deal to be the new faces of Chilli's Baby Back Ribs (of Fat Bastard fame) and they all would have been rich, which suited them since they'd no longer have to kill themselves in the ring and they've been looking forward to finally selling out. They only had an hour to fax the paperwork back - the pressure got to Matt Jackson, who didn't sign the paperwork in time and cost them the deal. Everyone was upset, including Hangman who had planned to buy a sweet-ass lawn mower with his share.

A few weeks later, it turned out The Dark Order had been offered the deal instead, and Brodie Lee spent his share on seven lawn mowers because 'FUCK HANGMAN ADAM PAGE'. This was partly out of spite because Hangman mentioned to Brodie a little while ago that he applied to join the Dark Order while he was depressed, but they never got back to his email and now he feels better, he's glad he didn't join.

Edited August 28, 2020 by Chris B