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Removing picture in picture segments really hurt this weeks show for me. But when last in the US I watched a couple of episodes on TNT and found picture in picture annoying in it's own right. I think Fite's usual coverage is the best possible experience and so worth the money. 

Loved the Dark Order stuff. Anna Jay is going to becone a star in this role. Also, sign Tay Conti - those 2 will be money!

I'm so invested in MJF / Moxley. But I think Moxley retains this time. I have this suspicion that despite of what Hangman did, I don't see him turning heal - Omega and the Bucks will end up as the heals after Omega turns on Hangman at All Out after they drop the belts to FTR. I really want to see the return of The Cleaner now - it has been hinted at for months and my prefence would be for him to do so and get massive heat by taking out Hangman. I'd love to see them build towards a rematch of Moxley / Omega at Full Gear 2, minus the 'lights out' stipulation - Putting the belt on Omega and having Hangman return and chase Omega for the belt and ultimately beat him for it.

If they do put the tag belts on FTR at All Out, they really can't put the Bucks / FTR match off much longer - certainly no later than Full Gear in November.

 

 

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Right people, right time, just the wrong location.

Fucking hell who’s arsed. Let people get excited about things.

For a TV Guide photoshoot promoting a new wrestling show, this is what you want to see. Not you brothers wedding reception, like those cunts above. You're selling professional wrestling. Nothing else.

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6 hours ago, MPDTT said:

Removing picture in picture segments really hurt this weeks show for me. But when last in the US I watched a couple of episodes on TNT and found picture in picture annoying in it's own right. I think Fite's usual coverage is the best possible experience and so worth the money. 

Loved the Dark Order stuff. Anna Jay is going to becone a star in this role. Also, sign Tay Conti - those 2 will be money!

I'm so invested in MJF / Moxley. But I think Moxley retains this time. I have this suspicion that despite of what Hangman did, I don't see him turning heal - Omega and the Bucks will end up as the heals after Omega turns on Hangman at All Out after they drop the belts to FTR. I really want to see the return of The Cleaner now - it has been hinted at for months and my prefence would be for him to do so and get massive heat by taking out Hangman. I'd love to see them build towards a rematch of Moxley / Omega at Full Gear 2, minus the 'lights out' stipulation - Putting the belt on Omega and having Hangman return and chase Omega for the belt and ultimately beat him for it.

If they do put the tag belts on FTR at All Out, they really can't put the Bucks / FTR match off much longer - certainly no later than Full Gear in November.

 

 

FTR arn’t losing this early, and seen as AEW don’t do DQs or Count Out’s, they’re either leaving with belts or it’s going the Time Limit

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FTR are winning those belts. No doubt about it. The intriguing bit of it is how and credit to AEW that there's so many potential endings.

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2 hours ago, The King Of Swing said:

Cody off TV.

Page out of The Elite.

Imo Omega turns putting the final nail in the group's coffin. Be interesting to see how BTE goes forward afterwards.

It's not just the Elite on BTE to be fair. Wouldn't really see it affecting much.

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Someone has put together a full guide to the Hangman/Elite story on Reddit, with links to all the segments/matches on Dynamite and BTE (time-stamped to the relevant bits, it looks like). This one is up to date, and covers everything since Hangman/Omega vs The Young Bucks. 

This second link goes back further, covering everything from the build-up to the original Double Or Nothing, where Hangman asks the Bucks to come to ringside for his match (like they did with Kenny in big matches) and they don't.

 

Particularly with the BTE bits, it's not always well-made (sound is crap in places, particularly), but it's been a consistent and interesting story. I'd have loved to have seen some of this on Dynamite (made better, admittedly), but I really like what they've done.

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6 hours ago, Chris B said:

Someone has put together a full guide to the Hangman/Elite story on Reddit, with links to all the segments/matches on Dynamite and BTE (time-stamped to the 

While I can see how great it is that someone put this together, the fact they had to suggests this story has been too subtle and not well enough told on their main TV show. I like the idea of BTE as a supplemental addition but the idea that having to watch something beyond the main show to fully grasp the storyline seems nuts. 

Also I still feel FTR are a bit dull and pretty overrated. Perhaps I'm missing something. 

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1 hour ago, mim731 said:

While I can see how great it is that someone put this together, the fact they had to suggests this story has been too subtle and not well enough told on their main TV show. I like the idea of BTE as a supplemental addition but the idea that having to watch something beyond the main show to fully grasp the storyline seems nuts. 

You don't have to have watched it to grasp the storyline. Considering it's a massively anticipated storyline and how many people are talking about it, wondering what will happen, that's clearly not the case. The major points have been on Dynamite, including the most BTE segment they've done in ages with the bar argument this week.

But it's also a story that's been building in various forms for a long time, including stuff that was pre-Dynamite. This is a comprehensive look at the details and the additional storytelling they've been doing throughout, that mean some of the details are more rich.

An example - The Bucks doing the Golden Lovers finish to Kenny in their match (leading to him becoming furious) wasn't fully explained, because it's NJPW stuff. If you didn't know that, it doesn't matter because they both kneed him right in the fucking face, which led to him snapping. If you know what the move means, you get that it was also the insult that caused Omega to snap and beat the shit out of both of them. But just because there's another level to it doesn't mean that you can't grasp the basic point that's going on.

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11 hours ago, mim731 said:

While I can see how great it is that someone put this together, the fact they had to suggests this story has been too subtle and not well enough told on their main TV show. I like the idea of BTE as a supplemental addition but the idea that having to watch something beyond the main show to fully grasp the storyline seems nuts.  

Not really. I don't watch BTE and have no knowledge of anything from Japan, ROH or wherever. The main story has played out on TV as far as I can tell and has been easy to follow. Seems like BTE etc. adds some extra colour but they aren't essential.

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Fair points @Chris B and @LaGoosh. I think perhaps from my perspective I haven't found myself that invested in the story without those extra trappings that come via BTE. I appreciate it's an opportunity to an add an extra layer, but I still feel those extra depths of story should be presented in the main format rather than the web show. Why not have the commentary team add extra layers?

It's probably a question of personal preference in fairness, and I'm sure there are those who prefer the way AEW currently present their stories. 

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24 minutes ago, mim731 said:

Fair points @Chris B and @LaGoosh. I think perhaps from my perspective I haven't found myself that invested in the story without those extra trappings that come via BTE. I appreciate it's an opportunity to an add an extra layer, but I still feel those extra depths of story should be presented in the main format rather than the web show. Why not have the commentary team add extra layers?

It's probably a question of personal preference in fairness, and I'm sure there are those who prefer the way AEW currently present their stories. 

I don't watch BTE, and I don't mind the odd easter egg for fans of that show. In fact, I think I'm very much in favour of that. You regularly see comic book movies, for example, and TV and videogame franchises include little references that would only be noticed by the most hardcore of fan. There's nothing wrong with rewarding or showing appreciation to dedication, providing it doesn't render the product you're offering incomprehensible to everyone else. 

I do wish they'd actually explain what Being the Elite is every now and then though. I don't remember them ever doing that, but I think it's important to make it clear to new viewers what it actually is and where they'll find it when announcers reference it. They don't need to do it every time, just make a point of doing it every so often. 

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It's a definite balance thing. I love multi layered stories when I'm able to follow every step. Stories with such intricacy really pay off well for audiences that pay attention and it's great to reward them like that.

They need to be careful though. It also needs to work on a superficial level too for the casuals. And I think on the whole they've managed to maintain that balance thankfully.

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