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6 minutes ago, LWOLeN said:

 

Didn’t dislike it because of the family. Felt extra terrible for them because wrestling is the devil to them now. I don’t blame them for it.

I would have hoped for his kids to be able to watch his matches and still feel proud. Again, I don’t blame them for not being able to.

Disliked the episode because of the scope the producers chose. You can’t cram the life and death of Owen Hart in 45 minutes. 

The Owen Hart Foundation did a lot of good  after his death. Would have learned more about it. Hope this clears it more up.

Have a look here. I had no idea the scope of the foundation. Far more impressive than fake fights.

 

http://owenhartfoundation.org/index.html

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I haven't watched the show yet, and honestly I don't know if I'm going to be able to bring myself to. But I did listen to Martha Hart on Jericho's podcast. She talks about her favourite Owen Hart

It's almost like they controlled the narrative in one of those docs.

Saw this picture on Twitter. Christ, even when Russo shaves it doesn’t have a proper finish. 

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It's interesting to me that two documentaries can leave me feeling so differently about a person.
In The Undertaker documentary I actually found myself liking Vince and feeling for him when he welled up when asked what The Undertaker meant to him.
I see this and his shitty attitude and his Trump-ian 'I don't appreciate your tone' attitude and go 'Wow, what a cunt'.
Humans are complex entities I guess.

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14 minutes ago, LWOLeN said:

I would have liked 10 minutes dedicated to this type of stuff to leave on a more happier note. 

What is Dark Side of the Ring in Dutch, anyone? Because he's still not getting it.

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"You ever notice when you're at a function and you run into Owen Hart's family. Why do they call them the Hart Family? What is up with that? Is it because she married a Care Bear? What's that about?"

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12 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said:

What is Dark Side of the Ring in Dutch, anyone? Because he's still not getting it.

Duistere kant van de ring. I get it now.

Won’t rewatch it ever.

 

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1 hour ago, Yakashi said:

Yeah, it’s not called always look on the bright side of the ring...

That's the Bertha Faye & Rene Goulet Christmas special

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1 hour ago, LWOLeN said:

Little celebration or admiration for his wrestling legacy by his wife or kids. His daughter basically sees wrestling as the devil. 

Martha is a doctor and Oje is a human rights lawyer. Got the feeling they really look down upon their families pro wrestling legacy, even though they are Harts. Whole Hart family fell apart.

In comparison: David Benoit is probably standing in his fathers tights right now as I type this and rewatching and enjoying WrestleMania with a big grin on his face. 

What an utterly stupid post this is.

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Brets view on Owen Hart/WWE at 07:54:

’Owen would turn in his grave if he knew how much trouble Martha has gone through to erase his career’

 

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Bret's been a confusing one since Montreal. He flips and flops all over the place, depending on what he's looking to get out of someone/something.

I can't imagine he's been easy for Martha to deal with at all.

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Bret Hart issued the below statement via his official Facebook page regarding his brother Owen’s absence from the WWE Hall of Fame and his side of the story when it comes to his differences with Owen’s wife Martha.

This past week, I have received multiple requests for comment regarding my recent interview on a podcast and the rebuttal made by Dr. Martha Hart. First of all, I want to express my disappointment in both the Calgary Sun and Calgary Herald for running a gossip-style article and making it front page news when there are more pressing issues in the world to highlight. You are better than that. I listened back to the interview in question and I specifically want to address Martha’s comments about my words being “cruel, reckless, irresponsible, and hurtful”.

Stampede Wrestling was an institution in the city of Calgary. Wrestling was our family business. My brothers and I either wrestled for my father Stu or worked behind the scenes. Fans packed the Victoria Pavilion every Friday night for decades. Martha has seemed to have forgotten that she attended those same shows before she met Owen. She was, by definition, a wrestling fan. That same group Martha appears to look down upon and ignore.

Earlier this year, Mark Henry took time during his WWE Hall of Fame induction to specifically address Martha. With tears in his eyes, Henry pleaded with her to allow Owen to be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. My nieces and nephews were in the audience with tears in their eyes as he expressed how much he deserved to be there with his peers. Fans have told me they had tears in their eyes when they watched the moment on television. Those same fans Martha sat side-by-side with at Stampede Wrestling and WWE events. Those same fans that donate to the Owen Hart Foundation and helped make it what it is today because they remember the joy he brought to their lives and not by how he died. Those royalty checks she receives from the company she says she doesn’t want any part of? Those are also from those same fans. To her, their tears do not matter. To me, that is cruel and hurtful.

It is true that Martha and I were close at one time. I was right by her side after Owen’s death until she received her settlement from WWE and proclaimed me a “pest”. Martha later declared herself and her children Harts in name only, called us all “black sheep”, and ceased contact with the rest of the Hart family. She further isolated from us when we all came together in 2010 to honour our father Stu being inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame and participated in a DVD that celebrated our family (Hart & Soul). Owen’s children do not have a relationship with his brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, and cousins. One of my nieces, in fact, named her son Owen after him. I do not know Oje and I wouldn’t know Athena if she walked passed me on the street. Owen’s children only know of their father’s family by what is told by their mother, whatever that may be, painting us all with one broad brush. To block Owen’s children from knowing their father’s family, to me, is cruel, reckless, and irresponsible.

Owen’s tragic accident almost 20 years ago changed our family forever. Martha lost her soulmate and her children lost their father. You have to remember, however, that I also lost my brother. My children lost their uncle. My grandchildren will only know him through pictures and stories. His peers lost a close friend who filled them with endless laughter through long periods on the road. The fans lost someone that they lovingly connected to. Martha is not alone in her loss and grief.

The Owen Hart Foundation is a wonderful charity that has raised millions of dollars and has helped many people in its 19 year history. I am not disputing or denying that whatsoever. I disagree, however, that it should be the sole outlet to remember Owen by. This is not just about Owen being inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. This is about his wrestling career, his wrestling legacy, his contribution to the business that he loved and honouring that contribution. Owen Hart was a world-renowned professional wrester, and a damn good one. He was part of the foundation that our family name was built on not just in the city of Calgary but all over the world. For Martha to want to rewrite history, to refuse to acknowledge or recognize his great wrestling career, to brush off what he, myself, and my father did as “that fake stuff” is wrong.

Owen Hart was a wrestler. The next generation deserve to know how great he truly was.

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41 minutes ago, Scott Malbranque said:

Dork Shite uv Ring.

God, I want that to be true so badly. But I'm not looking it up as I don't want to ruin the illusion.

I know it wasn't the point of the episode (which was a tough watch, and all this "But we all knew this stuff 20 years ago" is absolute bollocks I'm afraid) but fucking hell I loved Owen.

He was incredible, and could do it all. His arms aloft, high pitched, Canadian sounding "Yaaaaaaaah" makes me smile every time. Bless him and his family.

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