The Gaffer Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) Russo came off better than Bischoff, which isn't surprising these days. As much of a blithering idiot as Russo is, the way he's a bit like someone hanging outside the shop in a Kevin Smith movie and the way every single other talking head will usually give him precisely fuck all credit for anything never fails to cast him in a more sympathetic light. He's the level of writer wrestling deserved during that time period, and the mistake was always in giving him all the chaos emeralds. Bischoff on the other hand knows better - but through a combination of poor memory and insecurity about exactly how many things he's been successful with - will usually find a way to exaggerate how dominant WCW were - which had everything to do with him - and how out of his hands its downfall was - which seemingly had nothing to do with him. He kind of plays it like he's above the carny bullshit but he's right down there in the mud with everyone else paying off Conrad Thompson's mortgage. Edited August 2, 2023 by Gay as FOOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted August 4, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted August 4, 2023 Haven’t watched much of this season but just saw that next week is about Marty Jannetty. How much do you think Shawn Michaels is shitting his pants about that episode? From what Marty has let slip in the past, this could easily be his, “Plane Ride from Hell.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Have enjoyed this season alot, but thought the Adonis and Abby ones were awful and a complete waste of time. The first half of this season was really good though, and every one was worth a watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browser Brady Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 On 8/4/2023 at 7:04 PM, Supremo said: Haven’t watched much of this season but just saw that next week is about Marty Jannetty. How much do you think Shawn Michaels is shitting his pants about that episode? From what Marty has let slip in the past, this could easily be his, “Plane Ride from Hell.” Reading Vader’s book at the moment and he talks about Marty and Shawn in the AWA essentially drugging women and doing stuff like drawing on their pubic areas with markers before throwing them out of the hotel room with no underwear on for all to see. It’s lucky Shawn is a religious man because it’s a miracle he was never ‘Me Too’ed’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69MeDon Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) On 8/2/2023 at 4:38 PM, Gay as FOOK said: Russo came off better than Bischoff, which isn't surprising these days. As much of a blithering idiot as Russo is, the way he's a bit like someone hanging outside the shop in a Kevin Smith movie and the way every single other talking head will usually give him precisely fuck all credit for anything never fails to cast him in a more sympathetic light. He's the level of writer wrestling deserved during that time period, and the mistake was always in giving him all the chaos emeralds. Bischoff on the other hand knows better - but through a combination of poor memory and insecurity about exactly how many things he's been successful with - will usually find a way to exaggerate how dominant WCW were - which had everything to do with him - and how out of his hands its downfall was - which seemingly had nothing to do with him. He kind of plays it like he's above the carny bullshit but he's right down there in the mud with everyone else paying off Conrad Thompson's mortgage. It's actually, in some ways, impressive how - via his podcast and other means - ATM Eric has convinced huge numbers of people who either weren't fans at the time, or who hate Dave Meltzer & Co, that he basically had nothing to do with WCW dying. It was the network, it was the merger, it was Standards and Practices, it was Jamie Kellner and on and on and on. He essentially refuses to take any real responsibility for the company going out of business. Hey, Eric, if Nitro had been doing similar ratings to Raw in 2001, do you suppose Jamie Kellner would have found it as easy as he did to yank their TV? And what was it that caused this dramatic drop in ratings, which led WCW to lose $60m in a single year (another thing he never admits is true)? Nothing to do with Easy E. I mean, how could being a big part of driving away your audience be your fault? It's a shame because I enjoyed the first year or so of 83 Weeks but I find it unlistenable these days. Edited August 7, 2023 by 69MeDon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 There was a weird period where he was parroting 4chan losers, using the exact same verbiage as them. I really think he we trying to go down the right wing grifter avenue, there's a lot of money to be made there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsfromlee Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 Mick Foley clearly knowing its all a load of absolute bollocks, but trying to be diplomatic when hearing that Abdullah isn't able to read or write was hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Dead Mike Posted August 10, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted August 10, 2023 I knew Jannetty was a bit of a lost cause but that was absolutely tragic. At least Mr & Mrs Beefcake seem to be having a happy retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronSheik Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Fucking mental Beefcake felt he could expose this story in a jovial celebratory way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossman Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Watched a few of the latter episodes from this series. Ones like the Bam Bam Bigelow & JYD episode there wasn't much there to make it interesting. In the JYD one, his nephew said, "JYD did drugs whoopdedoo... they all did." Which is true, and makes you think why he was a subject choice. There was a little bit of truth bending in there too. They said after his WWF run ended in 1988. He ended up in WCW because Bill Watts brought him in, in the early 90s. (Would have been 92). But he was in WCW a month after his WWF run ended. And was there in 89, 90, 91, 92 & 93. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members herbie747 Posted September 10, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted September 10, 2023 5 hours ago, Rossman said: Watched a few of the latter episodes from this series. Ones like the Bam Bam Bigelow & JYD episode there wasn't much there to make it interesting. In the JYD one, his nephew said, "JYD did drugs whoopdedoo... they all did." Which is true, and makes you think why he was a subject choice. There was a little bit of truth bending in there too. They said after his WWF run ended in 1988. He ended up in WCW because Bill Watts brought him in, in the early 90s. (Would have been 92). But he was in WCW a month after his WWF run ended. And was there in 89, 90, 91, 92 & 93. They got the timelines wrong on a lot of things including Matt Osbourne's WWF and WCW runs.... which is bizarre since this information is on Wikipedia and not hard to find. They just skipped over stuff like it never happened. I found this last season overall very lacklustre. I guess all the good topics had been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dai Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 It popped up on my news feed that Darkside has been renewed for another season, and that it will be airing fairly soon. Most of last season's episodes were stinkers, but there were still a couple of good watches in amoungst the crap. What do people think are the best subjects that are yet to be covered? Heres a list of everything so far: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Side_of_the_Ring As shown by the awful episodes they did last season (Abby, JYD, Bam Bam, Adonis), they will just do almost straight laced biographies on people who are not even contraversial, so I wonder what guys from the 80s/90s they could do an episode on this time. No one obvious that springs to mind. The news feed said that Buff Bagwell has said hes been filmed for it, but surely Buff isnt that interesting a topic for an episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 As a subject Buff in interesting in that wrestler with an arsehole attitude fucks up lots and ends up as a repeated DUI offender and male escort is interesting for that show. He's so obscure in wrestling that it's threadbare but the story of Jeff Gaylord is mental brilliant for something like DSOTR. Stripper to USFL player to Wrestler to Bank Robber. In that fine order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kfogg1991 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 I read on Facebook they are looking to air the new season late march which surely means they have already started working on it for it to be ready by then? I'm also hoping we get more good topics than bad because the last season was not strong overall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted January 12 Paid Members Share Posted January 12 10 hours ago, Dai said: The news feed said that Buff Bagwell has said hes been filmed for it, but surely Buff isnt that interesting a topic for an episode. 9 hours ago, Chili said: As a subject Buff in interesting in that wrestler with an arsehole attitude fucks up lots and ends up as a repeated DUI offender and male escort is interesting for that show. The best Buff story has already been told, and told best by JR. About his mum calling Jim up to say that Marcus is poorly so can't come to work today. To be fair, as a former WCW World Tag Team Champion, I'd trust Judy's opinion on whether he was in ring shape or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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