Paid Members Chris B Posted September 17, 2025 Paid Members Posted September 17, 2025 On 8/18/2025 at 6:09 PM, boshealecta said: What I find crazy watching these old Wrestlemanias back (Hogans death got me nostalgic) was how short most things lasted but yet they are etched in my memory. Like Sapphire joined Dusty sometime after Survivor Series 89 (as she’s in the crowd) as his manager but had be bought off by SummerSlam 90. Sid turning heel at the beginning of 92 and then destroying jobbers on stretchers only lasted til Mania. Warrior hardly held the Intercontinental Title that long but to me that’s what defined him back then. And as I relied on tapes it’s not like I was catching all the weekly shows and updates. But still it made an impact on me a lot more than some current stuff (back in my day). It’s just I always presumed current stuff didn’t stick with me as much because they don’t stick with things long term but looking back the stuff I loved didn’t last that long at all. I think they just did a great job with recaps before the matches. No fancy video package, just literal chronologically what had been going down. I think some of it is to do with what we saw of people - it wasn't just the show itself. The same small number of videos were everywhere, so you didn't really see Dusty without Sapphire. Whatever the version was that got cut-through would be far more visible, like IC Warrior. Quote
Paid Members gmoney Posted September 17, 2025 Paid Members Posted September 17, 2025 That, and the fact most of us absorbed this as children. The ages of 5 - 15 seemed to span about 30 years for me. Year 7 at school was about 5 years of that alone. Quote
Paid Members BomberPat Posted September 17, 2025 Paid Members Posted September 17, 2025 A couple of my mates have an action figure podcast that I've guested on a couple of times, and whenever we talk about early '90s toy-lines, we tend to get on to the same two topics: how many 18-rated films had toys aimed at kids, and how the amount of time you spent with a piece of media didn't really have that much bearing on your fandom of it. I think both come down to there being a smaller media environment - so as a kid you might not have seen Robocop, but you'll have seen the trailers, the posters, references on other TV shows, and it looks cool, so you want the toys. As a kid watching wrestling, aside from the "summers lasted forever" sense of time you had as a kid, you probably watched the same video ten times rather than watching new stuff every week on TV, and then you had toys that immortalised those versions of the characters, maybe you had other merch showing them too. I think back to when I was a kid first getting into wrestling, I couldn't have told you what time any wrestling show was on TV (I might not have been able to tell you what channel it was on), and I can't have actually watched it all that much because I was in a house with five other members of my family, four of whom hated wrestling and wouldn't have wanted it on TV. I didn't have any wrestling toys, I don't remember anyone at school being into it, and the only wrestling game I'd played was Wrestlemania in the arcade. But my brother and I were obsessed, with played wrestling all the time, created characters, talked about it non-stop, all from whatever tiny snippets we could have seen on TV. Kids just latch on to these little things and it feels like they last forever. My partner's nephew is really into Minecraft, and I swear it was about two years into him wanting every bit of Minecraft merch he could get his hands on before he even learned it was a computer game he could play. Quote
The Reverend Posted September 17, 2025 Posted September 17, 2025 I think I've said it before, but it's quite shocking how I was such a big fan of wrestling without even really watching it. For the first couple of months of my renewed fandom in 1990, I never saw one match. I had the sticker album and magazines but never actually saw a match (we didn't have Sky) until I borrowed a tape of Survivor Series '90 off a school friend. Perhaps that's why I've always been more about the characters than the actual in-ring work. Gazing at pictures, rather than seeing them in action, I was drawn to wrestlers who had a unique look or character. Quote
Paid Members Statto Posted September 17, 2025 Paid Members Posted September 17, 2025 I often reflect on how short some people's runs were, who felt at the time like they were about forever. Kamala is a good example - returned to the company in June 92, unsuccessfully challenged Savage for the belt in July, feuded with Taker the rest of the year, did the face turn January 93 and was gone by the July. Racking up a Hasbro and a video game appearance along the way. If he debuted now, he'd still be treated as a new face squashing jobbers next summer. Quote
Paid Members WeeAl Posted September 17, 2025 Paid Members Posted September 17, 2025 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dai said: Doesnt a lot of the rumours stem for the remark Vince made about him on the last Nitro? Certainly seemed like there was something a bit personal about that dig. Dont know how much you can believe internet rumours, but wasnt the amount he asked for to do the job to Chyna something silly like $100k+? As Rick mentions there, my understanding of it is that Jarrett wanted the money that would be coming to him over the next few months, to be paid that night - probably anticipating that once he left that he would get shafted on some or all of it. And this is my opinion here - I haven't heard this before - but maybe Jeff played it this way because he had prior experience leaving the Fed to join WCW and knew the game better by '99? Who knows. Royalties (merch, games and so on), PPV payoffs, that month's/weeks salary etc. that Jarrett was due, had he still been with the company would have trickled in over the next few weeks and months. Bear in mind income from the PPV didn't tend to hit the companies until approx 90 days after the show, so the talent wouldn't get their PPV bonus until sometime following that. The number I always read/heard that got bandied about was $150k. Edited September 17, 2025 by WeeAl Quote
Paid Members waters44 Posted September 25, 2025 Paid Members Posted September 25, 2025 Who’s sign was this?! Never noticed before! Quote
AnotherCrapUsername Posted September 26, 2025 Posted September 26, 2025 Most likely wigmonkey who used to post here. Quote
Paid Members nfc90210 Posted September 27, 2025 Paid Members Posted September 27, 2025 If I want to watch MJF Vs Mistico how do I it legally? Quote
Infinity Land Posted September 27, 2025 Posted September 27, 2025 20 minutes ago, nfc90210 said: If I want to watch MJF Vs Mistico how do I it legally? It's up on their youtube channel under the paid tier. Quote
jm29195 Posted September 27, 2025 Posted September 27, 2025 You can buy the whole show on Triller I think. Quote
Browser Brady Posted October 8, 2025 Posted October 8, 2025 Has Davey Richards fully retired from wrestling now ? Quote
simonworden Posted October 9, 2025 Posted October 9, 2025 Here's a doozy. Back in 2003-5 (ish) Scott Conway tried to set up wrestling in Thailand. Does anyone have a decent record of any shows that actually happened and who appeared? Quote
Awards Moderator HarmonicGenerator Posted October 9, 2025 Awards Moderator Posted October 9, 2025 1 hour ago, simonworden said: Here's a doozy. Back in 2003-5 (ish) Scott Conway tried to set up wrestling in Thailand. Does anyone have a decent record of any shows that actually happened and who appeared? I seem to remember Jonny Storm going over to Thailand for a bit - but only through the FWA angle on The Wrestling Channel where he had a petition to persuade them to bring him back after he'd been away a while. Quote
organizedkaos Posted October 13, 2025 Posted October 13, 2025 (edited) On 10/9/2025 at 12:00 PM, simonworden said: Here's a doozy. Back in 2003-5 (ish) Scott Conway tried to set up wrestling in Thailand. Does anyone have a decent record of any shows that actually happened and who appeared? So this is just info from Jonny Storms book but hopefully answers part of your q (or gives you more info to Google!). Out of respect for anyone who's written a book im just conveying the key details about the wrestling show, there's plenty more story in the book but this its what's relevant to your question * Events were in Pattaya in an area called 'the market'. The venue was some warehouse (Conway got in builders to put in seats etc) * Conways business partner was sketchy thai chap with many connections, including mafia ones * Wrestlers were Jonny Storn, Shooting Star, Greg Burridge, Charlie Rage, Phil Lee and Kenny King. I think you can assume any show was a mix of them in matches (probably doing the classic build a tag from singles holiday camp card) * Idea was to do fairly Butlins holiday camp style shows for tourists * Name was Thai Wrestling Federation * Shows initially got some interested locals but never captured the tourist market (business partner was expected to do deals so tourist buses would stop off at shows as part of sightseeing itinerary) * At one point they're doing 3 shows a night (not due to popularity, just trying to wring money out of the situation) * After about 4 weeks with no tourists there's a meeting with possibly mafia connected business partner. Wrestler insults business partner. Wrestlers are encouraged to get out of Pattaya for their own saftey. Conway stays but lays low (he was living there and running a resteraunt) * End of TWF Edited October 13, 2025 by organizedkaos Quote
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