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I swear, Beefcake has to be the most useless cunt ever doesnt he? The bare minimal is to not be dull, and he cant manage that. You've had a 35 year career in the entertainment industry, pretty much been glued to Hulk Hogan throughout Hogan's giant career in pop culture, and all Beefcake can do is sound like he's playing with his figures. "OH, me and the Hulkster, Ooooh, we were a great team." Fuck.

Beefcake might have been as bad as Hillbilly Jim had it not been for the ban on speeches going six hours.

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On 4/28/2019 at 2:40 AM, Mr Kennedy said:

For anyone that attended, how was the event? Any major gripes?

Cracking event, Flair went out of his way to have a good chat with my starstruck son, Hacksaw was great, had a good chat with Christian in the afternoon he’s not sure whether the network show with Edge is coming back. Hall and Nash also high fived my son so all in all great. Well organised and friendly people.

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Not sure if its common knowledge of not, but how do the financials of events like this work? Do the wrestlers get a retainer and then pocket the autograph/photo money, or do they get paid a flat fee and the organisers retain the money?

Was wondering what was the case all day tbh.

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Depends who it is.

Generally the bigger guests would get a flat fee in my experience.

If they're just popping along from this country and local etc then they'll get a slightly different deal which is often why they seem more desperate to sell stuff.

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8 hours ago, garynysmon said:

I can't see Flair doing many more of these. He looked pretty frail sadly.

 

That's a shame to hear that. I only thought after Ric put the photo on Twitter of him, Nash, Hall, DiBiase and Wendy over the weekend how good he looked but appreciate that photos do not always tell the full story. 

In all honesty, he has done so well to get back on track after the big health scare back in 2017.

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He did look well but didn't move well, if that makes sense? In fairness we should remember that the bloke is 70, lived a manic lifestyle and is lucky to be alive. He was overheard complaining that he was tired and his legs hurt but these kind of events can be a long slog all round, especially by the second day.

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11 minutes ago, garynysmon said:

He did look well but didn't move well, if that makes sense? In fairness we should remember that the bloke is 70, lived a manic lifestyle and is lucky to be alive. He was overheard complaining that he was tired and his legs hurt but these kind of events can be a long slog all round, especially by the second day.

That's a very good point and I can imagine the events to be quite draining both physically and mentally. I am sure that I am not alone when I think of Ric Flair I think of and picture the Ric Flair from 1992 Royal Rumble. I never think of people in the limelight becoming older. 

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1 hour ago, garynysmon said:

Not sure if its common knowledge of not, but how do the financials of events like this work? Do the wrestlers get a retainer and then pocket the autograph/photo money, or do they get paid a flat fee and the organisers retain the money?

Was wondering what was the case all day tbh.

Depends on the deal, if they get a flat fee then the promoter takes the money made, sometimes they would do a split or sometimes the promoter flies them in and takes the entry gate and lets the wrestlers keep the money. Just depends on who you are.

21 minutes ago, Abe_Knuckleball_Schwartz said:

That's a shame to hear that. I only thought after Ric put the photo on Twitter of him, Nash, Hall, DiBiase and Wendy over the weekend how good he looked but appreciate that photos do not always tell the full story. 

In all honesty, he has done so well to get back on track after the big health scare back in 2017.

I was there and Flair was in a great mood, he's a 70 year old man with health issues last year so is a little slower but weight and health wise he was looking much better.

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also factor in that Flair was a few tables down from Sid so he would have been feeling heavy emotions over having to be reminded all weekend of his cheat Royal Rumble victory that clearly belonged to the master & ruler of the world

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Saw the phrase "bush league" used a few times in the AEW thread, and the thought occurs: I'd love to see a Bush League Wrestling promotion. By which I don't mean an actual bush-league promotion, there are more than enough of those, but one that's good enough to make it seems small-time and shitty while actually being entertaining. Sort of like an I'm Alan Partridge of wrestling, or a real version of Southpaw Regional Wrestling.

Maybe have angles where, say, an opponent hasn't shown up because he's got arrested, but they only tell the ring announcer just as he's announcing him and is forced to cover for it and everyone looks awkward. Or an actual Johnny Kickpads character with a typical, over-the-top indy name like Logan Viper or something, who is unbelievably shit and skinny, but keeps getting wins because of interference or accidents or other feuds overlapping. And, obviously, have a Global/World/Universal championship belt, preferably that Highspots template circle belt we saw everywhere at one point, which looks even more ridiculous being defended in a crappy gym.

Then book the likes of Kevin Nash and job everyone on the roster to him, and have him walk off looking bemused and disgusted, while the promoter hands him a big roll of cash at the entrance way in front of everybody in the hall.

EDIT: Should point out that I know this isn't really possible. To be be entertainingly shit on purpose in most entertainment fields, you have to be quite good but also relatively unknown for such a gimmick to work, and in wrestling, it seems that, if you're good enough to be relied upon for something that advanced, you're probably already quite well known as a talent.

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7 minutes ago, Carbomb said:

EDIT: Should point out that I know this isn't really possible.

Dunno, sounds like every promotion Vince Russo has booked for the last 20 years.

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2 minutes ago, tiger_rick said:

Dunno, sounds like every promotion Vince Russo has booked for the last 20 years.

His comedy wasn't intentional though

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On 4/29/2019 at 8:26 AM, I like root beer said:

I found Kelly Kelly a bit rude went for an autograph and was talking to her fans through her phone barely making eye contact, she seemed better on the photo op than autograph. 

I had no idea she was there, was she popular? 

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10 hours ago, Bellenda Carlisle said:

I had no idea she was there, was she popular? 

She was only there on Sunday table in top left corner next to RVD. At the time I went for a autograph her line was the same size as RVD. And her photo op was quite popular a long-ish que but that may be down to only having 1 in 1 day. Most wrestlers got 4 photo ops over 2 days.

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