Paid Members BomberPat Posted January 22 Paid Members Posted January 22 There is a lot of transphobia in '80s and '90s comedy, and then in early '00s reality TV, and it tends to be gross-out stuff where a male character is appalled to discover that the woman he is hitting on/has been set up with/is hitting on him "used to be a man", or words to that effect. And obviously that's offensive, and risks painting trans people as either sexual predators or engaged in active deception of straight men, but it tends to be unthinking and lazy writing more than outright demonising, whereas what we're seeing today is a widespread moral panic - I'm sure that being trans in the '80s and '90s was hardly a walk in the park, but you didn't have national newspapers, politicians, and successful authors actively calling you a child abuser or a threat to the entire concept of womanhood. It's depressing seeing coverage of trans people in early media. It might be painted as shocking, or weird, but it's rarely presenting them as a danger, more as a curiosity. A recent research rabbit hole led me to April Ashley, who was one of the first British women to have had gender confirmation surgery back in the early 1960s. Her husband divorced her in 1970, on the grounds that because there was no legal recognition of a change in gender, she was still legally a man, and therefore the marriage had never been legal in the first place - but her gender identity had been public knowledge since she was outed in the early '60s, and he obviously knew all of that, so it was just a bit of legal wrangling to get him out of his marriage and his maintenance payments. She made the 'papers a few times before and after that, and it was either tabloid "THIS LINGERIE MODEL USED TO BE A MAN" shock, or her telling her own story as a bit of a "weird" human interest angle, but she was never presented as a threat or indicative of something else. She got an MBE in 2012, and you just can't conceive of the current government giving out honours for someone's work on transgender equality - it's an issue that the parliamentary Labour Party has moved well to the right of David Cameron or Theresa May on. Quote
davertfnewman Posted January 22 Posted January 22 4 hours ago, BomberPat said: There is a lot of transphobia in '80s and '90s comedy, and then in early '00s reality TV, and it tends to be gross-out stuff where a male character is appalled to discover that the woman he is hitting on/has been set up with/is hitting on him "used to be a man", or words to that effect. And obviously that's offensive, and risks painting trans people as either sexual predators or engaged in active deception of straight men, but it tends to be unthinking and lazy writing more than outright demonising, whereas what we're seeing today is a widespread moral panic - I'm sure that being trans in the '80s and '90s was hardly a walk in the park, but you didn't have national newspapers, politicians, and successful authors actively calling you a child abuser or a threat to the entire concept of womanhood. Or you have an inversion of it like in Knowing Me Knowing You with Alan Partridge, where Daniella Forrester is an out and open male-to-female transsexual and sex symbol and the joke is on Alan for his ignorance. As they say on the DVD commentary, Alan isn't gay but he's afraid that he might be. Quote
Paid Members ReturnOfTheMack Posted January 22 Paid Members Posted January 22 Its interesting in Its Always Sunny, but Carmen seems to be about the only person who's life isn't worsened by meeting The Gang. Quote
lanky316 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 13 hours ago, davertfnewman said: Or you have an inversion of it like in Knowing Me Knowing You with Alan Partridge, where Daniella Forrester is an out and open male-to-female transsexual and sex symbol and the joke is on Alan for his ignorance. As they say on the DVD commentary, Alan isn't gay but he's afraid that he might be. I like the further payoff to this in I'm Alan Partridge, related to his "confusion" about the pay per view he purchased "Bangkok Chickboys" and he spends near the whole episode having to explain it's not like he's actually attracted or anything like that. It kind of serves to reiterate that last line. Quote
Rockbus2 Posted April 14 Posted April 14 5 hours ago, Carbomb said: Ugh. Well this is disappointing. Quote
BarryOVega Posted May 1 Posted May 1 Made the mistake of reading the comments on the Times’ article about Graham Linehan having his conviction overturned, pretty much every one was kicking off over the article calling him a ‘prominent anti transgender activist’ even though that’s what he’s most famous for nowadays Also couldn’t find anything from a quick search but has he had a stroke? his face looks fucked Quote
westlondonmist Posted May 1 Posted May 1 1 hour ago, BarryOVega said: Made the mistake of reading the comments on the Times’ article about Graham Linehan having his conviction overturned, pretty much every one was kicking off over the article calling him a ‘prominent anti transgender activist’ even though that’s what he’s most famous for nowadays Also couldn’t find anything from a quick search but has he had a stroke? his face looks fucked If so it was probably brought on from too much wanking over Daisy Taylor and Emma Rose. Quote
Paid Members TheBurningRed Posted May 1 Paid Members Posted May 1 1 hour ago, westlondonmist said: If so it was probably brought on from too much wanking over Daisy Taylor and Emma Rose. And who could blame him for that. Quote
Paid Members Lorne Malvo Posted May 13 Paid Members Posted May 13 @gmoney Seen this mate? Glinner is having a wobble because RTE are showing Father Ted instead of Eurovision. Quote
Paid Members JLM Posted May 13 Paid Members Posted May 13 Trying to speed run that wrong side of everything bingo card “I think talking really really loudly in the cinema is good, actually”. “Stepping in dog shit is excellent, change my mind!” “The feeling you get the first time your baby smiles at you is anti semitism!” Quote
Paid Members Wretch Posted May 13 Paid Members Posted May 13 They're showing the 'Song for Ireland' episode too. Lovely stuff. Quote
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted May 13 Paid Members Posted May 13 He won't be moaning when his royalty cheque comes in. That's how it works, isn't it? Quote
Paid Members Carbomb Posted May 13 Paid Members Posted May 13 40 minutes ago, Jazzy G said: He won't be moaning when his royalty cheque comes in. That's how it works, isn't it? That's why he's moaning. He doesn't get royalties any more. Quote
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