The Smackers Thread

[Supremo]

It was interesting that Kids TV Presenter Bray was shown live in the arena for the first time, as well as being the version advertised for the Miz match against TLC. I wonder if he'll wrestle in his sweater and not show any of the indestructible elements of The Fiend? Didn't look like it was announced as a Title match, either. Mostly though, I just hope this version doesn't wrestle under that fucking red light.

Daniel Bryan not getting the match at TLC is interesting, too. I wonder if that means they've realised how little they've got for Wrestlemania season so they're going to hold off on Bryan's return until a wild, shaved-headed version comes out and wins The Rumble, facing Bray at Wrestlemania. They had a great match at Survivor Series, so he'd certainly be a great choice for his Wrestlemania opponent now he's turned back to being a fully fledged babyface.

Do you think Seth Rollins watches Smackdown and realises how much he dragged Bray down? Things have picked up considerably since they moved Bray to Fridays.

[Daaaaaad!]

6 hours ago, Supremo said:

Do you think Seth Rollins watches Smackdown

Yes.

6 hours ago, Supremo said:

and realises how much he dragged Bray down?

No.

[Supremo]

Bray Wyatt is carrying Smackdown at the moment but that thing in The Miz’s house was proper shit. They’re lucky no fucker watches this show anymore. The one thing worse than the invisible camera? Miz actually acknowledging that there was a full camera crew just hanging out in his toddler’s bedroom on the off chance something spooky made him run in to check on her. 

I know he’s been described as a Vince McMahon Yes Man for years, but this run as head of Smackdown is really solidifying Bruce Pritchard as such. It reeks of a show written entirely for Vince. At least on Raw you can see Heyman trying to push through some type of vision and going with his favourites. Friday nights has become the dullest, paint-by-numbers job, week in and week out. I keep thinking of the Fox execs, having expected to get Ronda and Brock, then ending up with Baron Corbin.

A special shout out to everyone on the show acting like removing someone’s fake eyelashes is both painful (last week) and the most disrespectful, personal attack imaginable (last night). Never has a show felt so obviously written by weird, out-of-touch old bastards.

Still, this from Dash Wilder was gold.

Edited December 14, 2019 by Supremo

[HarmonicGenerator]

With the New Day's DQ win on this week's show, it means it's time for an update...

 

DOLPH ZIGGLER VS. KOFI KINGSTON: THE COMPLETE SAGA

(according to Online World Of Wrestling)

 

1. October 2, 2009 – A Decade of SmackDown: Mike “The Miz” Mizanin and Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston and John Morrison.

2. November 23, 2009 – RAW: Kofi Kingston (RAW) defeated Dolph Ziggler (SmackDown) in a Breakthrough Battle Royal Qualifier

3. March 26, 2010 – WWE SmackDown: SmackDown w/ Dolph defeated RAW w/ Kofi in a Money in the Bank Preview 10-Man Tag Team Match

4. March 28, 2010 – WrestleMania 26: Jack Swagger won the 10-Man Money in the Bank Ladder match to earn a title shot any time

5. May 7, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler in an Intercontinental Title Tournament Semi-Final Match.

6. June 25, 2010 – SmackDown: Christian and MVP and Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler and Vance Archer and Curt Hawkins.

7. July 2, 2010 – SmackDown: WWE Intercontinental champion Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero.

8. July 18, 2010 – Money in the Bank: Kane won the SD! Money in the Bank Ladder match to earn a World Heavyweight title match.

9. July 23, 2010 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Kofi Kingston in a Non-title match

10. July 30, 2010 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Kofi Kingston by disqualification

11. August 6, 2010 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero defeated Kofi Kingston to win the WWE Intercontinental title

12. August 15, 2010 – SummerSlam: WWE Intercontinental champion Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero vs. Kofi Kingston ended in a No Contest

13. August 20, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler by disqualification when Vickie Guerrero pushed Kofi off the top rope

14. August 27, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero by countout

15. September 10, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston and Chris Masters defeated Dolph Ziggler and Chavo Guerrero (w/Vickie and Kaitlyn)

16. September 19, 2010 – Night of Champions: Dolph Ziggler (w/Vickie Guerrero and Kaitlyn) defeated Kori Kingston to retain the WWE Intercontinental title

17. December 13, 2010 – The Slammy Awards: Kofi Kingston and Daniel Bryan defeated Dolph Ziggler (w/Vickie) and Ted DiBiase (w/Maryse)

18. December 10, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Dolph Ziggler by disqualification after interference by Jack Swagger

19. December 17, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston and Kaval defeated Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero

20. December 18, 2010 – WWE Tribute to the Troops: Kofi Kingston and The Big Show defeated Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler

21. December 19, 2010 – TLC PPV: Dolph Ziggler beat Kofi Kingston and Jack Swagger in a 3-WAY Ladder Match to retain the WWE Intercontinental title

22. December 31, 2010 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero beat Kofi Kingston and Jack Swagger in a 3-WAY to retain the Intercontinental title

23. January 7, 2011 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero to win the WWE Intercontinental title

24. Vickie Guerrero booked an immediate rematch; Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler to retain the WWE Intercontinental title

25. May 30, 2011 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated U.S. Champion Kofi Kingston in a non-title match

26. June 13, 2011 – RAW: U.S. Champion Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne defeated Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

27. June 19, 2011 – WWE Capitol Punishment: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston by submission to win the United States title

28. June 20, 2011 – RAW: Kofi Kingston defeated WWE United States champion Dolph Ziggler by disqualification in a 2/3 Falls Match

29. June 27, 2011 – RAW: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler in a Non-title Players Choice Match with Vickie banned

30. October 3, 2011 – RAW: John Cena, CM Punk, Sheamus, Kofi Kingston, Mason Ryan and Evan Bourne defeated Alberto Del Rio, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, Cody Rhodes, Christian and David Otunga.

31. October 7, 2011 – SmackDown: U.S. Champion Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger defeated WWE Tag Team Champions Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne in a non-title match

32. October 10, 2011 – RAW: Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne and Mason Ryan defeated David Otunga, Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

33. October 14, 2011 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston and Zack Ryder defeated U.S. Champion Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

34. February 6, 2012 – RAW: Chris Jericho defeated WWE Champion CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler, The Miz, R-Truth and Kofi Kingston in a 6 pack non-title match

35. February 19, 2012 – Elimination Chamber: WWE Champion CM Punk defeated Dolph Ziggler, Chris Jericho, The Miz, R-Truth, Kofi Kingston in the elimination chamber match to retain the title.

36. February 21, 2012 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger defeated Kofi Kingston and R-Truth

37. February 27, 2012 – RAW: WWE Tag Team Champions Epico and Primo Colon defeated Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger and Kofi Kingston and R-Truth in a 3-way tag team match to retain the titles

38. March 19, 2012 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger defeated R-Truth and Kofi Kingston

39. April 1, 2012 – Wrestlemania 28: Team Johnny (Mark Henry, David Otunga, Dolph Ziggler, Christian, The Miz, and Jack Swagger) defeated Team Teddy (Santino Marella, Kofi Kingston, R-Tuth, Zack Ryder, Great Khali, and Booker T) to give John Laurinaitis full control of WWE television

40. May 7, 2012 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston.

41. May 14, 2012 – RAW: WWE Tag Team Champions R-Truth and Kofi Kingston and Brodus Clay defeated The Miz, Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

42. May 20, 2012 – Over The Limit: WWE Tag Team Champions Kofi Kingston and R-Truth defeated Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger to retain the titles

43. May 28, 2012 – RAW: WTC Kofi Kingston and R-Truth defeated Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler to retain

44. September 24, 2012 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston by pin fall. Before the match both R-Truth and Vickie Guerrero were sent to the back

45. November 12, 2012 – RAW: Alberto Del Rio and Dolph Ziggler defeated I.C. Champion Kofi Kingston and Randy Orton

46. November 18, 2012 – Survivor Series: Alberto Del Rio, Damien Sandow, David Otunga, Dolph Ziggler, and Wade Barrett defeated Kane, Daniel Bryan, Kofi Kingston, The Miz, and Randy Orton in the traditional Survivor Series match. Dolph Ziggler was the sole survivor.

47. February 17, 2013 – Elimination Chamber: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston

48. March 18, 2013 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston.

49. March 22, 2013 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston

50. April 29, 2013 – RAW: WWE world heavyweight champion Dolph Ziggler defeated WWE United States champion Kofi Kingston in a non-title match

51. June 29, 2014 – Money in the Bank: Seth Rollins defeated Dean Ambrose, Jack Swagger, Rob Van Dam, Kofi Kingston, and Dolph Ziggler in a “Money in the Bank” ladder match to win the championship contract

52. June 1, 2015 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston.

53. June 14, 2015 – Money in the Bank: Sheamus defeated Roman Reigns, Randy Orton, Neville, Kane, Dolph Ziggler, and Kofi Kingston in a “Money in a Bank” ladder match

54. September 21, 2015 – RAW: WWE tag team champions the New Day and Rusev defeated Dolph Ziggler and the Dudley Boyz in a 6-man tag team match

55. January 7, 2016 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler, Neville, Goldust, and R-Truth defeated The Miz and the WWE tag team champions the New Day in an 8-man tag team match

56. January 21, 2016 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler and the Usos defeated WWE tag team champions the New Day in a 6-man tag team match

57. January 28, 2016 – SmackDown: The Usos, Dolph Ziggler, and Titus O’Neil defeated WWE tag team champions the New Day and the Miz in an 8-man tag team match

58. June 7, 2019 – WWE Super ShowDown: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler to retain the WWE title

59. June 11, 2019 – SmackDown Live: The New Day defeated Dolph Ziggler, Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn

60. June 23, 2019 - WWE Stomping Grounds: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler in a Steel Cage match to retain the WWE title

61. June 25, 2019 - SmackDown Live: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler in a Two Out Of Three Falls match to retain the WWE title

62. October 25, 2019 - SmackDown Live: Dolph Ziggler & Robert Roode defeated Kofi Kingston & Big E.

63. December 13, 2019 - SmackDown: Kofi Kingston & Big E defeated Dolph Ziggler & King Corbin by DQ.

 

Thanks to the DQ win, Kofi has now levelled their series at 28-28 with 7 additional non-finishes.

[Callum1993]

Smackdown is so so bad at the moment.

[TildeGuy~!]

Giving Carmella Pyro is hilarious.

[RedRooster]

They’re lucky that basically no one watches this show, otherwise they’d be risking a backlash for that ill-advised, dated and unnecessary joke about Caitlyn Jenner.

[HarmonicGenerator]

I only remembered SmackDown happened when I saw this thread had been posted in.

[DavidB6937]

I'm still confused about it being on a Friday.

[tiger_rick]

25 minutes ago, HarmonicGenerator said:

I only remembered SmackDown happened when I saw this thread had been posted in.

That's me every week. 

One thing they can never win with is non title matches. The guy who writes the report I read is always complaining about Champions losing non title matches and I'd agree somewhat because it can be very obvious in WWE. Then there are always people scoffing about them just handing out title matches. So this week, they have a non-title match, which the Champs won, and he still moaned.

[PunkStep]

4 hours ago, DavidB6937 said:

I'm still confused about it being on a Friday.

I'm NEVER going to keep up with Smackdown now. I'd sometimes check the results on Bleacher on Wednesday morning on the way to work, but there's no way I'm doing that on a Saturday morning. I couldn't tell you who is even on the show. Then again, I can't even be bothered to check the Raw results these days anyway. 

[Shane O' Mac Version 2]

On 12/14/2019 at 9:33 PM, Supremo said:

Bray Wyatt is carrying Smackdown at the moment but that thing in The Miz’s house was proper shit. They’re lucky no fucker watches this show anymore. The one thing worse than the invisible camera? Miz actually acknowledging that there was a full camera crew just hanging out in his toddler’s bedroom on the off chance something spooky made him run in to check on her. 

Not arguing the point of it being shit, but at least they have an out for the invisible camera thing with Miz. He and Maryse have that stupid little reality show, Miz and Mrs, so he'd be the one person they have on the roster that it makes sense for WWE cameras to be at his house.

Smackdown's a tough watch. It airs live here Saturday morning, and given that I'm usually recovering from a Friday night out, my standards are lower than usual. Still would much rather chuck on the Network and find something from when they gave a shit creatively.

I did get a chuckle out of the Otis/Mandy interactions though. Dozer giving hope to all us fat, sweaty blokes out there with that one.

[Supremo]

On 12/22/2019 at 6:21 AM, Shane O' Mac Version 2 said:

Not arguing the point of it being shit, but at least they have an out for the invisible camera thing with Miz. He and Maryse have that stupid little reality show, Miz and Mrs, so he'd be the one person they have on the roster that it makes sense for WWE cameras to be at his house.

I’d never even considered that! Great point. Wish they’d explained it on the show though.

Anyway, about last nights show, there’s only one constant in WWE;

They. All. Dance. In. The. End.

 

[The King of Old School]

Smackdown is horrible at the moment, and the imminent Roman/Fiend feud isn't going to improve things.

Thank god we have NXT to watch.

[TheBootyBoy]

Roman winning the Rumble and challenging The Fiend is going to happen and it'll be awful. But honestly, The Fiend by next year will have run its course. So its eh.