The Smackers Thread

[The Cutting Edge]

Yeah since the draft we havnt seen Big E, Aleister Black, Corbin and probably a few others, nothing wrong with rotating guys but sometimes can make them lack momentum like Black for example could do with a few solid wins to heat him up after KO feud

[RedRooster]

3 hours ago, DavidB6937 said:

It's a fine line for me. I'm all for not over-exposing the talent, but at the same time I want them to follow up on things like Big E post-New Day or Chad Gable etc. Sometimes it doesn't feel like a logical move. But I suppose if they feel they don't have the room, or don't have exact plans quite yet, it's probably better to keep them off than just shoving them out there without rhyme or reason. It is a tough call, as you don't want to kill the momentum either.

I totally agree with your examples, especially Gable, who really would have benefitted from immediate follow-up. 

@The Cutting Edge - I had honestly forgotten that Black had been drafted to Smackdown. I hope he gets a chance to show what he’s capable of.

[The Cutting Edge]

There should've been a Gable follow up, and Black is someone that would benefit from smashing jobbers or lower guys to get over his heel gimmick.

[Mr Butternut Squash]

Roman's little looks and facial expressions are phenomenal stuff. Love the dynamic of him as the head of the table while Heyman and Uce are constantly walking on eggshells. The backstage segment with Jey and Kevin Owens was refreshingly creative for a match set-up and was the first time I've cared about KO in forever. Don't think Roman or Randy Orton have mentioned each other once yet, though, lol. Survivor Series is so stupid these days.

Sasha and Bayley always deliver. Shame the ad breaks butchered the match a bit.

The Mysterio's being on the same show as the Tribal Chief makes their angle all the more laughable. Please end it already. The way they always treat Rey like a bit of a chump and a nobody is so frustrating.

What are the chances that the Chad Gable thing was a Daniel Bryan idea that squeezed through, and was dropped as soon as Vince realised?

Edited November 8, 2020 by Mr Butternut Squash

[DavidB6937]

I'll agree that Survivor Series feels more like an interruption than anything at the moment. Really annoying.

Even the qualifiers felt like an after thought this week to the shitty storylines.

[Nick James]

Reigns can do no wrong at the moment. He is absolutely mastering the little facial expressions while everything else is going down. The way he was scowling behind Key as he was going at Drew. Then him giving him a dressing down backstage was great. Even talking to Heyman when he kept saying 'what is it you call this place?'

Poor Chelsea Green. She's sat waiting to debut on the main roster for months and she finally debuts and breaks her wrist within minutes of starting the match. Hopefully they can keep her on TV during the injury as she is a fresh face with talent that Smackdowns Women's Division seriously needs.

 

[DavidB6937]

Chelsea is definitely someone that could benefit from weeks of building up a character. She's always been entertaining in other companies. It'd be great to see her get that chance here as there hasn't been much of who she is yet.

[RIDDUM_N_STYLE]

Gutted for Chelsea, was so fresh seeing someone fairly new getting an opportunity as opposed to a waste of space like Natalya, who's whole gimmick now seems to be a delusionist believing she's some sort of legend who deserves to be handed everything because of who her family is

[DavidB6937]

10 hours ago, RIDDUM_N_STYLE said:

Gutted for Chelsea, was so fresh seeing someone fairly new getting an opportunity as opposed to a waste of space like Natalya, who's whole gimmick now seems to be a delusionist believing she's some sort of legend who deserves to be handed everything because of who her family is

I'll take her over Tamina..

[Mr Butternut Squash]

I was about ready to explode watching the Drew/Roman tease. Tremendous stuff. Roman is such a dickhead! Him completely burying the WWE title and the Raw brand was so hilarious and weird. It's hard to believe these two already fought each other just a year ago, at Wrestlemania no less. They're like two completely different beings.

A Chad Gable and Otis pairing has potential. I'm hoping Chad passes one of his Alpha Academy brochures onto Big E ASAP.

 

[HarmonicGenerator]

Did you think being on separate brands would stop them? Not during Survivor Series season!

Spoiler

DOLPH ZIGGLER VS. KOFI KINGSTON: THE COMPLETE SAGA

(according to Online World Of Wrestling)

 

1. October 2, 2009 – A Decade of SmackDown: Mike “The Miz” Mizanin and Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston and John Morrison.

2. November 23, 2009 – RAW: Kofi Kingston (RAW) defeated Dolph Ziggler (SmackDown) in a Breakthrough Battle Royal Qualifier

3. March 26, 2010 – WWE SmackDown: SmackDown w/ Dolph defeated RAW w/ Kofi in a Money in the Bank Preview 10-Man Tag Team Match

4. March 28, 2010 – WrestleMania 26: Jack Swagger won the 10-Man Money in the Bank Ladder match to earn a title shot any time

5. May 7, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler in an Intercontinental Title Tournament Semi-Final Match.

6. June 25, 2010 – SmackDown: Christian and MVP and Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler and Vance Archer and Curt Hawkins.

7. July 2, 2010 – SmackDown: WWE Intercontinental champion Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero.

8. July 18, 2010 – Money in the Bank: Kane won the SD! Money in the Bank Ladder match to earn a World Heavyweight title match.

9. July 23, 2010 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Kofi Kingston in a Non-title match

10. July 30, 2010 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Kofi Kingston by disqualification

11. August 6, 2010 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero defeated Kofi Kingston to win the WWE Intercontinental title

12. August 15, 2010 – SummerSlam: WWE Intercontinental champion Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero vs. Kofi Kingston ended in a No Contest

13. August 20, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler by disqualification when Vickie Guerrero pushed Kofi off the top rope

14. August 27, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero by countout

15. September 10, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston and Chris Masters defeated Dolph Ziggler and Chavo Guerrero (w/Vickie and Kaitlyn)

16. September 19, 2010 – Night of Champions: Dolph Ziggler (w/Vickie Guerrero and Kaitlyn) defeated Kori Kingston to retain the WWE Intercontinental title

17. December 13, 2010 – The Slammy Awards: Kofi Kingston and Daniel Bryan defeated Dolph Ziggler (w/Vickie) and Ted DiBiase (w/Maryse)

18. December 10, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated WWE Intercontinental champion Dolph Ziggler by disqualification after interference by Jack Swagger

19. December 17, 2010 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston and Kaval defeated Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero

20. December 18, 2010 – WWE Tribute to the Troops: Kofi Kingston and The Big Show defeated Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler

21. December 19, 2010 – TLC PPV: Dolph Ziggler beat Kofi Kingston and Jack Swagger in a 3-WAY Ladder Match to retain the WWE Intercontinental title

22. December 31, 2010 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero beat Kofi Kingston and Jack Swagger in a 3-WAY to retain the Intercontinental title

23. January 7, 2011 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler w/Vickie Guerrero to win the WWE Intercontinental title

24. Vickie Guerrero booked an immediate rematch; Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler to retain the WWE Intercontinental title

25. May 30, 2011 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated U.S. Champion Kofi Kingston in a non-title match

26. June 13, 2011 – RAW: U.S. Champion Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne defeated Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

27. June 19, 2011 – WWE Capitol Punishment: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston by submission to win the United States title

28. June 20, 2011 – RAW: Kofi Kingston defeated WWE United States champion Dolph Ziggler by disqualification in a 2/3 Falls Match

29. June 27, 2011 – RAW: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler in a Non-title Players Choice Match with Vickie banned

30. October 3, 2011 – RAW: John Cena, CM Punk, Sheamus, Kofi Kingston, Mason Ryan and Evan Bourne defeated Alberto Del Rio, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, Cody Rhodes, Christian and David Otunga.

31. October 7, 2011 – SmackDown: U.S. Champion Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger defeated WWE Tag Team Champions Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne in a non-title match

32. October 10, 2011 – RAW: Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne and Mason Ryan defeated David Otunga, Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

33. October 14, 2011 – SmackDown: Kofi Kingston and Zack Ryder defeated U.S. Champion Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

34. February 6, 2012 – RAW: Chris Jericho defeated WWE Champion CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler, The Miz, R-Truth and Kofi Kingston in a 6 pack non-title match

35. February 19, 2012 – Elimination Chamber: WWE Champion CM Punk defeated Dolph Ziggler, Chris Jericho, The Miz, R-Truth, Kofi Kingston in the elimination chamber match to retain the title.

36. February 21, 2012 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger defeated Kofi Kingston and R-Truth

37. February 27, 2012 – RAW: WWE Tag Team Champions Epico and Primo Colon defeated Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger and Kofi Kingston and R-Truth in a 3-way tag team match to retain the titles

38. March 19, 2012 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger defeated R-Truth and Kofi Kingston

39. April 1, 2012 – Wrestlemania 28: Team Johnny (Mark Henry, David Otunga, Dolph Ziggler, Christian, The Miz, and Jack Swagger) defeated Team Teddy (Santino Marella, Kofi Kingston, R-Tuth, Zack Ryder, Great Khali, and Booker T) to give John Laurinaitis full control of WWE television

40. May 7, 2012 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston.

41. May 14, 2012 – RAW: WWE Tag Team Champions R-Truth and Kofi Kingston and Brodus Clay defeated The Miz, Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger

42. May 20, 2012 – Over The Limit: WWE Tag Team Champions Kofi Kingston and R-Truth defeated Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger to retain the titles

43. May 28, 2012 – RAW: WTC Kofi Kingston and R-Truth defeated Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler to retain

44. September 24, 2012 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston by pin fall. Before the match both R-Truth and Vickie Guerrero were sent to the back

45. September 27, 2012 - Superstars: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston.

46. November 12, 2012 – RAW: Alberto Del Rio and Dolph Ziggler defeated I.C. Champion Kofi Kingston and Randy Orton

47. November 18, 2012 – Survivor Series: Alberto Del Rio, Damien Sandow, David Otunga, Dolph Ziggler, and Wade Barrett defeated Kane, Daniel Bryan, Kofi Kingston, The Miz, and Randy Orton in the traditional Survivor Series match. Dolph Ziggler was the sole survivor.

48. February 17, 2013 – Elimination Chamber: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston

49. March 18, 2013 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston.

50. March 22, 2013 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston

51. April 29, 2013 – RAW: WWE world heavyweight champion Dolph Ziggler defeated WWE United States champion Kofi Kingston in a non-title match

52. June 29, 2014 – Money in the Bank: Seth Rollins defeated Dean Ambrose, Jack Swagger, Rob Van Dam, Kofi Kingston, and Dolph Ziggler in a “Money in the Bank” ladder match to win the championship contract

53. June 1, 2015 – RAW: Dolph Ziggler defeated Kofi Kingston.

54. June 14, 2015 – Money in the Bank: Sheamus defeated Roman Reigns, Randy Orton, Neville, Kane, Dolph Ziggler, and Kofi Kingston in a “Money in a Bank” ladder match

55. September 21, 2015 – RAW: WWE tag team champions the New Day and Rusev defeated Dolph Ziggler and the Dudley Boyz in a 6-man tag team match

56. January 7, 2016 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler, Neville, Goldust, and R-Truth defeated The Miz and the WWE tag team champions the New Day in an 8-man tag team match

57. January 21, 2016 – SmackDown: Dolph Ziggler and the Usos defeated WWE tag team champions the New Day in a 6-man tag team match

58. January 28, 2016 – SmackDown: The Usos, Dolph Ziggler, and Titus O’Neil defeated WWE tag team champions the New Day and the Miz in an 8-man tag team match

59. June 7, 2019 – WWE Super ShowDown: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler to retain the WWE title

60. June 11, 2019 – SmackDown Live: The New Day defeated Dolph Ziggler, Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn

61. June 23, 2019 - WWE Stomping Grounds: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler in a Steel Cage match to retain the WWE title

62. June 25, 2019 - SmackDown Live: Kofi Kingston defeated Dolph Ziggler in a Two Out Of Three Falls match to retain the WWE title

63. October 25, 2019 - SmackDown Live: Dolph Ziggler & Robert Roode defeated Kofi Kingston & Big E.

64. December 13, 2019 - SmackDown: Kofi Kingston & Big E defeated Dolph Ziggler & King Corbin by DQ.

65. February 21, 2020 - SmackDown: The Usos & The New Day def. The Miz, John Morrison, Dolph Ziggler & Robert Roode.

66. October 12, 2020 - Raw: Tag team champions The New Day def. Dolph Ziggler & Robert Roode.
 

67. November 20, 2020 - SmackDown: The New Day & The Street Profits def. Robert Roode, Dolph Ziggler, King Corbin & Sami Zayn.

 

Kofi Kingston is pulling ahead, and now leads the series 31-29, with 7 additional non-finishes.

Edited November 21, 2020 by HarmonicGenerator
Don’t know how to do quote boxes, spoiler box will do

[DavidB6937]

I saw you'd posted in here and I knew what it would be 😂

[SuperBacon]

Daniel Bryan looks fit with that new haircut. 

[Supremo]

Daniel Bryan hates his own neck and brain.

 

[Joe Blog]

5 hours ago, Supremo said:

Daniel Bryan hates his own neck and brain.

 

To be fair as stupid as that spot it Bryan looks like he takes it pretty flat. Stupid non the less. 

Edited November 28, 2020 by Joe Blog