David Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Fuck it, I'll give the PPV a shot. I've pretty much stopped watching wrestling altogether, but this and MLW has grabbed my attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Merzbow said: Less "soapy" turns me off, personally, but we knew it was going to be like that anyway. I gotta give them a hand tho, they're really going for this and I hope it does well. Ā Yep. Constantly referring to themselves as more sport-orientated is easily the most alarming thing so far. Who the fuck wants that? I want a fun soap opera with interesting storylines, mixed with boss matches. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it plays out but if nothing else at least it'll be something new and different, which has never felt more needed in this industry. Is Jim Ross actually announcing? Whilst I'm certain he can be useful backstage, surely everyone is in agreement that he's long since past it at the desk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 I'm interested in the 'less soapy' approach. It doesn't need to mean 'fewer storylines', but just fewer storylines that take place during the show itself. If they use BTE, an AEW channel and wrestlers' own social media as a way to build up storylines and interactions, along with 3-4 promoted matches on a 1 hour TV show, that could be a really interesting way to go. They can still show packages, have commentators talk about the build-ups, etc, and they can still run angles... but not with an authority figure setting up the show at the start of the night. And if they cut down on that during the show itself, that could make for more simple TV. Also, if wrestlers are doing more of their own storylines/characters, etc, that could mean the builds have more of a sketch-show feel than a drama feel, where they build stuff up in unconnected, different ways, but the TV show only uses what works for the show. Either way, I'm interested in what they do - I was sold on All In, sold on Double or Nothing, and very up for what they do next. I'm also hoping that Jericho wandering back to NJPW means the NJPW partnership is officially back up and running sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chris B said: If they use BTE, an AEW channel and wrestlers' own social media as a way to build up storylines and interactions, That just sounds like hard work to me, having to actively search for things outside of the show to get the angles isn't for me. And yeah, I'm lazy, I want to be able to sit back and have it all fed to me within the 2(?) hours of TV. Edited May 15, 2019 by Merzbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Merzbow said: That just sounds like hard work to me, having to actively search for things outside of the show to get the angles isn't for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 I'm joking, obviously - but think about how Becky Lynch's social media stuff got everyone more excited than most of what they did on TV. I've got BTE on my regular Monday watch-list, and it's usually 10-20 minutes long, so it's not like it's adding huge amounts. If you're not showing everyone every week and trying to run 3 hours of storylines, it's not like you're trying to make up that 3 hours of stuff every week elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The King Of Swing Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, David said: Fuck it, I'll give the PPV a shot. I've pretty much stopped watching wrestling altogether, but this and MLW has grabbed my attention. Just ordered it myself Been moaning about the lack of a viable alternative for years, so I'm giving them a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Accident Prone Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Merzbow said: That just sounds like hard work to me, having to actively search for things outside of the show to get the angles isn't for me. And yeah, I'm lazy, I want to be able to sit back and have it all fed to me within the 2(?) hours of TV. Yep. Even though I have access to WWE's many social media accounts any time of day, I usually take those tidbits as non-cannon at worst or minorĀ world building at best. Ultimately, when we're talking about a weekly wrestling TV show, if it isn't referenced on the actualĀ show then it doesn't count.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Reading around online, Tony Khan's thing in the NFL seems to be sporting analytics so their sports-orientated approach could be stuff like examining the force of blows, speed/length of dives, how often certain teams tag in or out or the success rate of finishers. Maybe something like fastest win, similar to what UFC do? As long as it wasn't purely stuff like that and we still got storylines then I think that could be something cool. Might actually make these guys seem like larger than life athletes. Again, the more I think about it, the more I realise how much I'm craving anything different. Shoot it differently, present it differently, whatever. Just do something fresh. EDIT: This is the type of thing I could imagine them doing with the analytics side of things. Certainly sells guys as superstar athletes. Quite fitting that the chap at the end of this describes Conor as, "Elite compared to the Elites." Ā Edited May 15, 2019 by Supremo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamaras-Tash Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, garynysmon said: AEW really are the Liverpool FC of the wrestling industry. They are doing all the right things and creatingĀ what we all expect will be an entertaining brand, and under normal circumstances we'd all love them for it. But fuck me, their fans aren't half annoying. Ā Not half as annoying as moany cunts on here, I dont use Twitter or browse Youtube comments so would have no idea of these fans if it wasn't for people on here waffling on about them. I could understand it if they all posted on here but they dont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 Like everything with this company, people seem to jump on stuff before it's aired and we've any idea. "Less soapy" could mean anything. NXT is much "less soapy" than WWE and it's also considered much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Accident Prone said: Yep. Even though I have access to WWE's many social media accounts any time of day, I usually take those tidbits as non-cannon at worst or minorĀ world building at best. Ultimately, when we're talking about a weekly wrestling TV show, if it isn't referenced on the actualĀ show then it doesn't count.Ā See, I'm seeing this as an exciting thing to drop. I'm hoping for more of an NXT-style show, with a handful of matches and angles/promos, with them doing whatever they hell they want to build up the matches outside of the show. You're right - it's not canon. So you can get as into it or not as you want - take it or leave it. If it adds to it, great. If it doesn't, it won't get in the way. I'd still love to see a post-match analysis panel put in - not as crap as WWE do their pre-match panels, but specifically to further stories/angles, and build up wins and losses and how they matter.Ā Edited May 15, 2019 by Chris B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factotum Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 This is genuinely brilliant news. Well done to all involved to get it this far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrodyGraham Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 The dream for me is a two hour show with arena matches interspersedĀ with a Match of the Day meets Talking Smack style studio section to provide analysis/ further storylines/ let the guys talk. That would satisfy both the sports led and pro wrestling demands I would imagine. But y'know, it won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, BrodyGraham said: The dream for me is a two hour show with arena matches interspersedĀ with a Match of the Day meets Talking Smack style studio section to provide analysis/ further storylines/ let the guys talk. That would satisfy both the sports led and pro wrestling demands I would imagine. But y'know, it won't happen. Hopefully not, because it sounds quite terrible. It may just be me, but I find the idea of people sitting round a table or whatever trying to discuss pro wrestling as if it's a legit sport to be cringeworthy as fuck. There's no need for it, as it just highlights how fucking ridiculous the whole industry is in reality. It's different if people are taking it seriously "in the show" so to speak, as that's fine and completely expected, but these review type deals that we see before WWE pay per views are the drizzling shits I reckon. Keep the "sports" element to within the show, analysing finishing holds, giving points for wins in tournaments or whatever, fair enough. But we don't need the matches and angles being analysed as though it's an episode of MOTD. That kind of shit is way up there with podcasts that discuss the goings-on in EastendersĀ in a semi-serious tone. We don't need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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