Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Factotum said: This is genuinely brilliant news. Well done to all involved to get it this far. "Waits to see if Tony Khan gives this post an upvote" Â Edited May 15, 2019 by Hannibal Scorch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, David said: Hopefully not, because it sounds quite terrible. It may just be me, but I find the idea of people sitting round a table or whatever trying to discuss pro wrestling as if it's a legit sport to be cringeworthy as fuck. There's no need for it, as it just highlights how fucking ridiculous the whole industry is in reality. It's different if people are taking it seriously "in the show" so to speak, as that's fine and completely expected, but these review type deals that we see before WWE pay per views are the drizzling shits I reckon. Keep the "sports" element to within the show, analysing finishing holds, giving points for wins in tournaments or whatever, fair enough. But we don't need the matches and angles being analysed as though it's an episode of MOTD. That kind of shit is way up there with podcasts that discuss the goings-on in Eastenders in a semi-serious tone. We don't need it. Talking Smack was pretty great though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 Depends how it's done. We've seen it done brilliantly in Talking Smack and dreadfully in every single WWE "pre-game" show of the modern era. Personally, I don't often watch the analysis on MOTD, it's dreadful. But Monday Night Football do a great job. So all about people and presentation. I want to feel like the hosts/commentators/whatever are presenting an event and aren't just shills for the company. That'd be the key presentation factor for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Hannibal Scorch said: Talking Smack was pretty great though As I said, it depends on how they would approach it. The way they do it on those pre-shows is terrible in my opinion, selling us on the matches being real and the outcomes based on ability and suchlike. Maybe others think that's cool, but all it does for me is remind me that what I'm watching is pretend and kind of kills the suspension of disbelief a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, David said: Hopefully not, because it sounds quite terrible. It may just be me, but I find the idea of people sitting round a table or whatever trying to discuss pro wrestling as if it's a legit sport to be cringeworthy as fuck. There's no need for it, as it just highlights how fucking ridiculous the whole industry is in reality. It's different if people are taking it seriously "in the show" so to speak, as that's fine and completely expected, but these review type deals that we see before WWE pay per views are the drizzling shits I reckon. Keep the "sports" element to within the show, analysing finishing holds, giving points for wins in tournaments or whatever, fair enough. But we don't need the matches and angles being analysed as though it's an episode of MOTD. That kind of shit is way up there with podcasts that discuss the goings-on in Eastenders in a semi-serious tone. We don't need it.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 If they planned on hamming it up like that then I'm all in, pardon the pun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, David said: If they planned on hamming it up like that then I'm all in, pardon the pun. That's the thing; any analysis or punditry would still have to be part of the storylines and angles, it's still pro-wrestling. If it was just dry analysis, treated like it's separate from the sport like it is in real life, then it would definitely be boring. It all needs to be a vehicle to drive the product, not just provide window dressing. In that sense, it could give an extra dimension to feuds and angles; I've gone on about it before, but that turning of Mr. Perfect on Flair to join Savage for the Survivor Series tag match was a beautiful piece of booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Carbomb said: Â Well.... where was Jack Tunney with all this commotion? He should have stepped in before it got to aggressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Carbomb said: That's the thing; any analysis or punditry would still have to be part of the storylines and angles, it's still pro-wrestling. If it was just dry analysis, treated like it's separate from the sport like it is in real life, then it would definitely be boring. It all needs to be a vehicle to drive the product, not just provide window dressing. In that sense, it could give an extra dimension to feuds and angles; I've gone on about it before, but that turning of Mr. Perfect on Flair to join Savage for the Survivor Series tag match was a beautiful piece of booking. Yeah, but we're discussing this analysis and punditry from a sporting standpoint, remember? The OP mentioned MOTD, which is the point I was addressing. I don't think such an approach would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Hannibal Scorch said: Well.... where was Jack Tunney with all this commotion? He should have stepped in before it got to aggressive And that's another thing: I really hope they don't have a bloody authority figure, and if they absolutely insist on it, that it only be like Jack Tunney, only showing up to make the odd announcement when it's really called for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 Just now, David said: Yeah, but we're discussing this analysis and punditry from a sporting standpoint, remember? The OP mentioned MOTD, which is the point I was addressing. I don't think such an approach would work. True, but we're still discussing the sporting standpoint of analysis and punditry through a pro-wrestling filter. That's the thing people shouldn't lose sight of, I think. They've said they're looking at a "more" sporting-based approach, not a "completely" sporting-based one. The nature of pro-wrestling is such that the toothpaste can't be shoved back in the tube. Besides, Cody and Co. have already set the tone themselves, and it's not exactly ESPN. Would look weird if they tried to do that after everything they've done to build up All In and Double or Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Carbomb said: And that's another thing: I really hope they don't have a bloody authority figure, and if they absolutely insist on it, that it only be like Jack Tunney, only showing up to make the odd announcement when it's really called for. Well, now he is out of a job, only one man should be brought in Max Beesley Sr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted May 15, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted May 15, 2019 I hope Triple H is laughing in his face at the Performance Center whilst thinking, “I wonder if Vince still has the DX tank?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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