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Like everything with this company, people seem to jump on stuff before it's aired and we've any idea. "Less soapy" could mean anything. NXT is much "less soapy" than WWE and it's also considered much better.

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22 minutes ago, Accident Prone said:

Yep. Even though I have access to WWE's many social media accounts any time of day, I usually take those tidbits as non-cannon at worst or minor world building at best. Ultimately, when we're talking about a weekly wrestling TV show, if it isn't referenced on the actual show then it doesn't count. 

See, I'm seeing this as an exciting thing to drop. I'm hoping for more of an NXT-style show, with a handful of matches and angles/promos, with them doing whatever they hell they want to build up the matches outside of the show. You're right - it's not canon. So you can get as into it or not as you want - take it or leave it. If it adds to it, great. If it doesn't, it won't get in the way.

I'd still love to see a post-match analysis panel put in - not as crap as WWE do their pre-match panels, but specifically to further stories/angles, and build up wins and losses and how they matter. 

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The dream for me is a two hour show with arena matches interspersed  with a Match of the Day meets Talking Smack style studio section to provide analysis/ further storylines/ let the guys talk.

That would satisfy both the sports led and pro wrestling demands I would imagine. But y'know, it won't happen.

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1 minute ago, BrodyGraham said:

The dream for me is a two hour show with arena matches interspersed  with a Match of the Day meets Talking Smack style studio section to provide analysis/ further storylines/ let the guys talk.

That would satisfy both the sports led and pro wrestling demands I would imagine. But y'know, it won't happen.

Hopefully not, because it sounds quite terrible.

It may just be me, but I find the idea of people sitting round a table or whatever trying to discuss pro wrestling as if it's a legit sport to be cringeworthy as fuck. There's no need for it, as it just highlights how fucking ridiculous the whole industry is in reality.

It's different if people are taking it seriously "in the show" so to speak, as that's fine and completely expected, but these review type deals that we see before WWE pay per views are the drizzling shits I reckon.

Keep the "sports" element to within the show, analysing finishing holds, giving points for wins in tournaments or whatever, fair enough. But we don't need the matches and angles being analysed as though it's an episode of MOTD.

That kind of shit is way up there with podcasts that discuss the goings-on in Eastenders in a semi-serious tone. We don't need it.

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24 minutes ago, Factotum said:

This is genuinely brilliant news. Well done to all involved to get it this far.

"Waits to see if Tony Khan gives this post an upvote"

 

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2 minutes ago, David said:

Hopefully not, because it sounds quite terrible.

It may just be me, but I find the idea of people sitting round a table or whatever trying to discuss pro wrestling as if it's a legit sport to be cringeworthy as fuck. There's no need for it, as it just highlights how fucking ridiculous the whole industry is in reality.

It's different if people are taking it seriously "in the show" so to speak, as that's fine and completely expected, but these review type deals that we see before WWE pay per views are the drizzling shits I reckon.

Keep the "sports" element to within the show, analysing finishing holds, giving points for wins in tournaments or whatever, fair enough. But we don't need the matches and angles being analysed as though it's an episode of MOTD.

That kind of shit is way up there with podcasts that discuss the goings-on in Eastenders in a semi-serious tone. We don't need it.

Talking Smack was pretty great though

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Depends how it's done. We've seen it done brilliantly in Talking Smack and dreadfully in every single WWE "pre-game" show of the modern era.

Personally, I don't often watch the analysis on MOTD, it's dreadful. But Monday Night Football do a great job. So all about people and presentation.

I want to feel like the hosts/commentators/whatever are presenting an event and aren't just shills for the company. That'd be the key presentation factor for me.

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1 minute ago, Hannibal Scorch said:

Talking Smack was pretty great though

As I said, it depends on how they would approach it. The way they do it on those pre-shows is terrible in my opinion, selling us on the matches being real and the outcomes based on ability and suchlike. 

Maybe others think that's cool, but all it does for me is remind me that what I'm watching is pretend and kind of kills the suspension of disbelief a little.

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2 minutes ago, David said:

Hopefully not, because it sounds quite terrible.

It may just be me, but I find the idea of people sitting round a table or whatever trying to discuss pro wrestling as if it's a legit sport to be cringeworthy as fuck. There's no need for it, as it just highlights how fucking ridiculous the whole industry is in reality.

It's different if people are taking it seriously "in the show" so to speak, as that's fine and completely expected, but these review type deals that we see before WWE pay per views are the drizzling shits I reckon.

Keep the "sports" element to within the show, analysing finishing holds, giving points for wins in tournaments or whatever, fair enough. But we don't need the matches and angles being analysed as though it's an episode of MOTD.

That kind of shit is way up there with podcasts that discuss the goings-on in Eastenders in a semi-serious tone. We don't need it.

 

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If they planned on hamming it up like that then I'm all in, pardon the pun.

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Just now, David said:

If they planned on hamming it up like that then I'm all in, pardon the pun.

That's the thing; any analysis or punditry would still have to be part of the storylines and angles, it's still pro-wrestling. If it was just dry analysis, treated like it's separate from the sport like it is in real life, then it would definitely be boring. It all needs to be a vehicle to drive the product, not just provide window dressing. In that sense, it could give an extra dimension to feuds and angles; I've gone on about it before, but that turning of Mr. Perfect on Flair to join Savage for the Survivor Series tag match was a beautiful piece of booking.

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5 minutes ago, Carbomb said:

 

Well.... where was Jack Tunney with all this commotion? He should have stepped in before it got to aggressive

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1 minute ago, Carbomb said:

That's the thing; any analysis or punditry would still have to be part of the storylines and angles, it's still pro-wrestling. If it was just dry analysis, treated like it's separate from the sport like it is in real life, then it would definitely be boring. It all needs to be a vehicle to drive the product, not just provide window dressing. In that sense, it could give an extra dimension to feuds and angles; I've gone on about it before, but that turning of Mr. Perfect on Flair to join Savage for the Survivor Series tag match was a beautiful piece of booking.

Yeah, but we're discussing this analysis and punditry from a sporting standpoint, remember? The OP mentioned MOTD, which is the point I was addressing. I don't think such an approach would work.

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1 minute ago, Hannibal Scorch said:

Well.... where was Jack Tunney with all this commotion? He should have stepped in before it got to aggressive

And that's another thing: I really hope they don't have a bloody authority figure, and if they absolutely insist on it, that it only be like Jack Tunney, only showing up to make the odd announcement when it's really called for.

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