Paid Members BomberPat Posted November 6, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted November 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, The King Of Swing said: Terrifying that almost 70 million people still voted for him. Getting rid of Trump is only part one. the Guardian have been reporting on his supporters rejecting Fox News, accusing them of having "gone lefty" for declaring Arizona for Biden. It's a sickness. It's gone beyond political and got to a point where being a Trump supporter is an integral part of their identity, and any attack on identity is something you take extremely personally. That, coupled with the conspiracy theory logic where every setback or rebuttal to your beliefs somehow only reinforces them stronger. There's a resurgent far-right movement in the US, and it doesn't end with Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Lenin Posted November 6, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted November 6, 2020 Do we think that Trump(et) will decide to bomb anywhere or press the big red button in the next few months? This is going to be a slog for all concerned. How long does presidential exemption apply after he leaves office? Might be best if the FBI lock him up the minute he leaves the White House. Assuming he does leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Astro Hollywood Posted November 6, 2020 Moderators Share Posted November 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Suplex Sinner said: Do we think that Trump(et) will decide to bomb anywhere or press the big red button in the next few months? I think he'll be be so tied up in trying to win the election he lost, he won't even be thinking about writing mad executive orders or nuking Pennsylvania. He'll still be carping on about it by the time they drag him out of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted November 6, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted November 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, BomberPat said: the Guardian have been reporting on his supporters rejecting Fox News, accusing them of having "gone lefty" for declaring Arizona for Biden. It's a sickness. It's gone beyond political and got to a point where being a Trump supporter is an integral part of their identity, and any attack on identity is something you take extremely personally. That, coupled with the conspiracy theory logic where every setback or rebuttal to your beliefs somehow only reinforces them stronger. There's a resurgent far-right movement in the US, and it doesn't end with Trump. It's not entirely surprising, when you look at how Trump and his gang have wooed their supporters. Most cults operate by "love-bombing" the marginalised. What Trump & Co. have done is leveraged the American media's penchant for ramping up people's fears to make the more conservative sides of the electorate even more scared, particularly the whites' fear of "being supplanted" in the wake of Obama's election and more perceived progress on the civil rights front, and then, as Trevor Noah stated a while back, "offered them victimhood", simultaneously making them feel both marginalised and "rescued" by Trump. The Franklin adage comes up again that nobody can be reasoned out of a position they didn't reason themselves into, and this is a perfect example: they've been "psyched" into this, and it's going to be very difficult to withdraw that feeling of victimhood. In all frankness, that's largely because it's partly based on truth. These people were marginalised and failed by both parties. The big lie is about who's responsible for it; it's classic divide-and-rule. Whilst I'm sort of relieved that Biden's got in to put the brakes on the insanity, the fact is that we're probably headed back again into it sooner than later, because not only hasn't the system that gave rise to Trump been fixed, but also I very much doubt the Democrats will have learned their lessons either. Even if they have, I'm not confident they'll be able to act on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 They just delisted the ETIM as a terrorist organisation which is almost like setting a bomb off in China, but I doubt the US was ever really fighting them anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Suplex Sinner said: Do we think that Trump(et) will decide to bomb anywhere or press the big red button in the next few months? Absolutely no chance he has the ability to launch a missile. They probably told him the code is 1234. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Justice Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 They've announced a recount in Georgia. Can he still win without that being finalised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
organizedkaos Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Pennsylvania would push him to 273 I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, SuperBacon said: Absolutely no chance he has the ability to launch a missile. They probably told him the code is 1234. It did used to be 00000000.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Lenin Posted November 6, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted November 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, SuperBacon said: Absolutely no chance he has the ability to launch a missile. They probably told him the code is 1234. This made me chuckle. Can only hope that's the case. In other news CNN are saying they've seen internal memos from Fox advising their anchors not to call Biden "president-elect" on their broadcasts when he reaches 270 electoral college votes. No idea if that'll be true given the obvious bias involved but anything is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awards Moderator Onyx2 Posted November 6, 2020 Awards Moderator Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Suplex Sinner said: not to call Biden "president-elect" on their broadcasts Well he hasn't updated his LinkedIn job title yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 58 minutes ago, Cod Eye said: I bet he pisses in the White House kettle or something. He's been boiling my piss for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 43 minutes ago, BomberPat said: There's a resurgent far-right movement in the US, and it doesn't end with Trump. To bring the more "casual" of his followers back to the centre it's going to take some careful, well-thought out governing by Biden. He can certainly do it, and he's making the right noises so far from what I see. He isn't gloating, he's speaking about one United States of America, all that jazz. I tend to agree with what Andrew Yang was saying during his campaign. Trump isn't the cause, he's a symptom. It's now up to Biden to make sure he addresses the issues that have led to someone like Trump being able to take advantage of people's disillusionment in the system. There's always going to be far-right lunatics, and they'll be unreachable of course, but of the people who voted for Trump I think a vast chunk can be brought back by solid governing and a President and government that acknowledges their issues. Social media is full of gloating, which is well & good, but that solves fuck all. If they all continue as is it's going to be a constant war every four years where the rest of the world holds its breath to see if a right-wing maniac is being elected. This shit needs to come to an end, and hopefully Biden can be as many things to as many people as he has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 3 hours ago, David said: Your views on live chat in the MMA section is far more abhorrent than anything you've said politically, to be fair. If it’s any consolation, even this thread has proven that live chat reduces any thread to dogshit. What with bookie odds here, counts currently at what lead and what percent. You aren’t Twitter or breaking news, guys (Tilde excepted) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted November 6, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted November 6, 2020 57 minutes ago, Steve Justice said: They've announced a recount in Georgia. Can he still win without that being finalised? Yep, with Pennsylvania he's already got enough without needing Georgia. Though it's almost unheard of for a statewide recount to change the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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