cobra_gordo Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 On 11/14/2020 at 10:11 AM, Cod Eye said: I think he's actually on to something. Lets stop calling each other Black, White or whatever, and start identifying different ethnicities using the Dulux colour chart. I'm not far off "Sandrock Bluff"... The lass from Speed? Quote
Paid Members Cod Eye Posted November 16, 2020 Paid Members Posted November 16, 2020 50 minutes ago, cobra_gordo said: The lass from Speed? I could only dream, mate! Quote
MrK Posted November 16, 2020 Posted November 16, 2020 For my own peace of mind, is it racist to use the term B. A. M. E.? Because I’ve always pronounced it in my head as letters as opposed to Bame. Quote
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted November 16, 2020 Moderators Posted November 16, 2020 As with most things, depends on how you use it Quote
Paid Members Chris B Posted November 16, 2020 Paid Members Posted November 16, 2020 36 minutes ago, MrK said: For my own peace of mind, is it racist to use the term B. A. M. E.? Because I’ve always pronounced it in my head as letters as opposed to Bame. I think part of it is that it's an official, box-ticking term either way. As catch-all's go in casual conversation, it can be far too close to 'ethnics' or 'minorities', both of which can be really dismissive. I think there might also be an element of it being a term for lots of groups of people, and also one that's not in any way self-chosen (unlike 'people of colour', which rubs some people up the wrong way, but I think in a different way). As @Chest Rockwellsays, it's all in how you use it. In, like, council or HR speak, it's probably fine. In more casual talk, it can be fine, but there will almost certainly be better terms to use in context. In dismissive talk, it's fucking horrible. Quote
Paid Members stumobir Posted November 17, 2020 Paid Members Posted November 17, 2020 It was used on Newsnight last night in the context of postgrad admissions, which fits with most uses of it that I’ve seen, normally some kind of data comparison or the like. @MrKYou say each letter, B.A.M.E, if I was ever to hear it pronounced Bame, I’d assume ignorance or deliberate flippancy. Quote
Paid Members BomberPat Posted November 17, 2020 Paid Members Posted November 17, 2020 yeah, it's a category of data, it's not an adjective. Quote
Paid Members Linus Posted November 17, 2020 Paid Members Posted November 17, 2020 BAME - which can be and often is pronounced as a word - is used in the same way as LGBTQ+. You'd never describe an individual as LGTBQ+ but you'd refer to the "community" or an officer/spokesman of such in a political party. Individuals are black, or Asian, unless they tell you otherwise, in which case you use what they ask you to use. Quote
Paid Members stumobir Posted November 17, 2020 Paid Members Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Linus said: BAME - which can be and often is pronounced as a word - is used in the same way as LGBTQ+. You'd never describe an individual as LGTBQ+ but you'd refer to the "community" or an officer/spokesman of such in a political party. Individuals are black, or Asian, unless they tell you otherwise, in which case you use what they ask you to use. Really? Can't say I've ever heard it said like that and would be pretty uncomfortable using it myself. While I can't think of many reasons to use B.A.M.E outside of quantitive discussion it at least distinguishes that there are differences within that group, as does LGBTQ+, using BAME just seems lazy and potentially insensitive, might as well just say "THEM". Edited November 17, 2020 by stumobir Quote
Paid Members Chris B Posted November 17, 2020 Paid Members Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) Plenty of things can be and are pronounced as words. Doesn't mean they're all acceptable. Edited November 17, 2020 by Chris B Quote
patiirc Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 Increasingly intersectionality is used instead of BAME by those in said community As with all things, people hate being defined and labelled by others for other's consumption and would much prefer to define themselves, which makes better sense. Quote
AshC Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 It's a fair observation, but it means people are forever at risk of saying the 'wrong' thing. I kinda of wish the world would chill out about it, tbh. Fuck racism, mind. Quote
Paid Members BomberPat Posted November 17, 2020 Paid Members Posted November 17, 2020 We'd be better off if people were worried more about being conscientious and polite enough to say the right thing than imagining that they were being restricted from saying the wrong thing. Quote
Members SuperBacon Posted November 17, 2020 Members Posted November 17, 2020 TIL that the last people executed in Britain, 'legally', was in 1964. I think I already knew this (Today I Relearned?), but this has sort of shocked me a bit. That's not that long ago is it? Also, TIL Pusha T is ridiculously rich as Arbys pays him for their slogan "We Have The Meats". And he came up with the McDonald's "I'm Loving It" jingle. Nice work. Quote
Keith Houchen Posted November 17, 2020 Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, SuperBacon said: TIL that the last people executed in Britain, 'legally', was in 1964. There’s that one as well about how the last legal execution in France by guillotine happened after Star Wars A New Hope came out. (It wasn’t Lucas) Quote
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