Keith Houchen Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Cod Eye said: West Brom made midfielder Len Cantello's testimonial match a "Black vs White" match as late as 1979 And wasn't Ron Atkinson the man behind it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Cod Eye Posted September 23, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: And wasn't Ron Atkinson the man behind it? Not sure if he was the one who had the idea of the match, but he was the one in charge on the team, and the one to bring in the "Three Degrees", whose nickname alone is another example of the "casual racism" that was rife around the time... Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BigJag Posted September 23, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted September 23, 2017 Wasn't there a BBC 2 documentary covering that football match? I think Adrian Chiles fronted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted September 23, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted September 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, BigJag said: I think Adrian Chiles fronted it. Well, that's not getting watched then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianmingo Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 People need to chill with the racism card in my view. It was in the 60's. Bet it was a good match as well. Most of the people in the US are racist anyway. On the football thing. It's like that Man U player they are going on about. They are moaning cos of some song fans sing.  He is black of course he is going to have a big dick, I remember asking the white girls round my ends before why do you go with the black lads. They said "cos they have big dicks".  I really don't see what the problem is to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted September 23, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted September 23, 2017 You know what's saddest of all about this idiot. Is that people will actually reply to him in all seriousness rather than disregarding him as the piss poor troll that he is. I mean, is that really the best that you've got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Thunderplex Posted September 24, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted September 24, 2017 The blacks do have big dicks though. Â Big veined, whoppers of dicks. Â Massive, massive, massive dicks. Â Never quite seen dicks like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members bAzTNM#1 Posted September 24, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted September 24, 2017 Wasn't it a bit from the documentary about Laurie Cunningham you're all talking about? (Blacks vs Whites) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Really Big Shoe Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b084fmgv  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Cod Eye Posted September 24, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted September 24, 2017 Thats the documentary that I saw about it a few months ago... Taking it back to the "Black vs White" wrestling card, I was speaking to one of my uncles in the pub last night about it. He was in his Teenage years in the mid 60's and remembers this sort of thing happening often. He says that there wasn't much racial "hatred" at the time(more casual racism that was used almost as a term of endearment, believe it or not...), and most people he knew had a "West Indian mate". His was the comedian/footballer Charlie Williams! He thinks the card in question wasn't put on to draw heat due to peoples prejudices, but was more to do with the fact the "Black" side were more mysterious and exotic, so would draw people in who were curious what they would be like. Their billed home countries point to this also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Arch Stanton Posted September 24, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted September 24, 2017  7 hours ago, Cod Eye said: Thats the documentary that I saw about it a few months ago... Taking it back to the "Black vs White" wrestling card, I was speaking to one of my uncles in the pub last night about it. He was in his Teenage years in the mid 60's and remembers this sort of thing happening often. He says that there wasn't much racial "hatred" at the time(more casual racism that was used almost as a term of endearment, believe it or not...), and most people he knew had a "West Indian mate". His was the comedian/footballer Charlie Williams! He thinks the card in question wasn't put on to draw heat due to peoples prejudices, but was more to do with the fact the "Black" side were more mysterious and exotic, so would draw people in who were curious what they would be like. Their billed home countries point to this also... 100% this. I would have hoped that was obvious to most people, but the reactions from some people in this thread suggest not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Thunderplex Posted September 24, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted September 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said:  100% this. I would have hoped that was obvious to most people, but the reactions from some people in this thread suggest not. In an ideal world it would have been, but I remember the casual racism in the 70’s and early 80’s on tv wrestling which is what cast the doubts in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted September 24, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Quote  He thinks the card in question wasn't put on to draw heat due to peoples prejudices, but was more to do with the fact the "Black" side were more mysterious and exotic, so would draw people in who were curious what they would be like. Their billed home countries point to this also...[\quote] 100% this. I would have hoped that was obvious to most people, but the reactions from some people in this thread suggest not.[\quote] Indeed. There are people I know of an older generation for whom someone not white moving into the street was the most interesting thing of the year. Edited September 24, 2017 by Tommy! What the fucks going on with the quote function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted September 25, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted September 25, 2017 Historically, in the US at least, most territories wouldn't book a black man as a heel until the late '70s/early '80s at least, as they were genuinely scared that white fans would riot at the sight of a black man brutalising a white babyface. While I don't think it was ever quite that prevalent in the UK, there was definitely the aforementioned sense of exoticism - most black wrestlers were faces, and usually billed as being from the West Indies, Jamaica, Borneo, Barbados etc. to that end. Though, again, that carries a fair amount of casual racism on its own - the idea that the black lad has to be from somewhere else, you can't just bill him as being from Peckham. Same with Asians being given the surname "Lee" and doing martial arts gimmicks. Racism is a lot more complicated than just calling 'em names. I've seen a wrestling poster somewhere that honestly bills something like "A 300-Pound Gorilla and Four Coloured Boys". Can't remember the year, but was pretty astonishing stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members theironshake Posted October 1, 2017 Paid Members Share Posted October 1, 2017 The carabean sunshine boys caused alot of heat in the 70s for joint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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