SuperBacon Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, sukhy said: It is true, WWE can throw shots whenever they like, no one bats an eyelid. But when it's the other way round or a response, you get the WCW jibes, you get all of the grifter podcasts going crazy, twitter and Facebook bots going mad. 42 minutes ago, sukhy said: Better to ignore it 38 minutes ago, sukhy said: Better to ignore it 29 minutes ago, sukhy said: Better to ignore it Better to ignore it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 This forum is full of people batting eyelids. We do nothing but. That, and talking about chippy tea's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members air_raid Posted April 12 Paid Members Share Posted April 12 7 minutes ago, d-d-d-dAz said: This forum is full of people batting eyelids. We do nothing but. That, and talking about chippy tea's. Well, to be 100% accurate, it’s something we’re said to not do. So it’s more like the thing we’re least likely to do, after use the toilet properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted April 12 Paid Members Share Posted April 12 (edited) Edited April 12 by LaGoosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 hours ago, DavidB6937 said: What did he even say about Ospreay? I missed it, but surprised he'd reference him directly. Nothing. He said something about freelancers not wanting to put the grind in which could have been about anybody. People seem to want it to be about Ospreay. And I've always got the impression that Ospreay probably isn't the hardest guy to wind up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ReturnOfTheMack Posted April 12 Paid Members Share Posted April 12 Shit episode. Glad I saw the footage, I don't think it adds owt, but I'm a nosey fucker who likes to know shit. Also, if Hook fucks off its only Hangers keeping me watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted April 13 Paid Members Share Posted April 13 Been some good discussions in here last few days* and for me now having let the dust settle (and stop taking his to seriously), I think it was a stupid decision to air the footage on Dynamite. I’m not apposed to the footage being out there, but I do think it outside of the ratings bump, they should have released it to an outfit like TMZ and had the storyline follow up on TV (because I do think that part of this worked well. Certainly gave a reason to care about the match which was pretty ice cold in terms of story. I also heard the reason punk did the interview was he was told the footage was going to air and wanted to get ahead of the lead (but that’s dirtsheets so pinch of salt). 21 hours ago, garynysmon said: Good old whataboutery… In all seriousness, as @RedRooster alluded to, is Tony Khan really a ‘nice guy’ though? Yes he gets excited about wrestlers he signs, which may be endearing to some. But ask Big Swole and others he’s had a wobbler about if he’s a nice guy or not. Tony Khan’s major advantage over any other booker is his financial clout that he inherited by virtue of his birth. A hill I’d happily die on is if you gave Scott D’amore AEW’s budget it would be a better product all round. He has done some great things. Brodie Lee, giving talent time of when there have been bereavements or births (and I mean more than a week). I certainly think on balance he’s done better things than WWE have done in the past. But I don’t think he’s infallible or not due criticism (although the Swole point is tricky. She has medical issues and I thought he gave her lots of time off when needed. She’s an awful wrestler though so he wasn’t wrong, but definitely said the quiet bit out loud. She definitely did warrant a new contract.) and I’m sorry but I’d love D’amore to be picked up by AEW. I’m shocked he’s not been picked (unless I missed something. 18 hours ago, DavidB6937 said: What did he even say about Ospreay? I missed it, but surprised he'd reference him directly. He didn’t. But he was asked about signing free agents and he made a comment about talking to people who decided they didn’t want the grind and were happy to work one day a week and he’s glad he didn’t pick them (Not understanding if you offer someone a contract and they take a different one, they didn’t pick you). Of the recent free agents, apparently they only made offers to Will and Mone, and Will had publicly discussed that the WWE offer was good, but AEW allowed him to keep his family living in the UK and not needing to relocate (and we obviously know why that was really important to him). So it’s reading between the lines but also pretty obvious. Anyway, I’ll try being less of a tit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRooster Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hannibal Scorch said: He has done some great things. Brodie Lee, giving talent time of when there have been bereavements or births (and I mean more than a week). I certainly think on balance he’s done better things than WWE have done in the past. I suppose the distinction here is whether or not that makes him ‘too nice’ - these are examples of him doing the right thing and being a good boss; providing the courtesy is extended to anyone and everyone within the company - whether they’re high-profile on-screen wrestlers, or someone who works in catering. But that’s a separate matter, this may well happen. That said, I would point to his track record with instances of sexual harassment and employing people with serious allegations made against them as negating any suggestion that he’s ’too nice’. He seems willing to overlook or to bury allegations if they’re made against a wrestler he either idolises or pays handsomely. That’s a pretty significant blot on his track record. It’s probably fair to point out that toxic environments are far from unique to wrestling, as we’ve found out in recent years - you could point to Buffy, feuds between the Desperate Housewives, how Hannibal cast members felt about Michael Pitt, the relationships between some of the actors on Succession - it’s about how you manage these relationships and ensure serious allegations are handled correctly - Khan seems to be failing badly at all of this, and that’s even before we get to his booking. EDIT: 2 hours ago, Hannibal Scorch said: Anyway, I’ll try being less of a tit. You’re not being a tit - I actually think you’ve demonstrated a much more rounded view of Khan and AEW recently. Doesn’t mean I agree with everything you’re saying, though! Edited April 13 by RedRooster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted April 13 Paid Members Share Posted April 13 31 minutes ago, RedRooster said: That said, I would point to his track record with instances of sexual harassment and employing people with serious allegations made against them as negating any suggestion that he’s ’too nice’. He seems willing to overlook or to bury allegations if they’re made against a wrestler he either idolises or pays handsomely. That’s a pretty significant blot on his track record. “Banning” Hulk Hogan and signing Ric Flair is about as clear an example as I can think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyAnderson Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 20 hours ago, garynysmon said: Swap around AEW and WWE in your comment and it would be just as valid. That may be true but as I haven't watched WWE since pre-covid, I wouldn't know if they're as bad at it. If they are though, AEW should be flattered that WWE sees them important enough to be mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no user name Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Looks like matt Hardy is leaving aew. Not a particularly big miss though I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 5 hours ago, Hannibal Scorch said: I’d love D’amore to be picked up by AEW. This is an excellent idea. If Khan has the self-awareness that he needs to delegate some booking, D’Amore is probably the best person out there right now, with great reputation amongst the indy wrestlers Khan seems so keen to hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Tony Khan is far too inconsistent with his character to be the good guy he’d like to be seen as. He’s almost seen as some kind of socialist billionaire wrestling saviour by virtue of not being the rapey sex maniac across the road. HHH is a small petty man at the best of times but he’s obviously going to sell being rejected for a smaller fed as being on the fault of the rejector. Ospreay made absolutely the right call, he’s massive for AEW and gets to write his own ticket there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted April 13 Paid Members Share Posted April 13 3 hours ago, garynysmon said: “Banning” Hulk Hogan and signing Ric Flair is about as clear an example as I can think of. That’s not quite true, although optics. Flair was supposed to be signed and once the Darkside of the Ring episode aired. Sting wanted him to come in during his final run and AEW did a deal with Woo Energy which they would pay Flair to appear. And he only appeared 3 times. Optically, still looked shit to have him in, but I guess they weren’t paying for the privilege. Jay Lethal is probably the best (worst) example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 8 minutes ago, Hannibal Scorch said: I guess they weren’t paying for the privilege. That's probably how Tony justified it to himself I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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