Merzbow Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Just thinking about who the McMahon's are best buddies with, it's really not that wild to imagine they'd set up a disinformation campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Land Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tamura said: Why would they bother doing both? Why have 1,000 pro-WWE bots and 500 anti-AEW bots when you could just have 1,500 pro-WWE bots instead? See below. For the sake of discussion, we'll assume Tony Khan's paranoid accusations are correct. Would WWE's anti-AEW bot army result in any extra TV viewers for WWE? Would WWE's anti-AEW bot army result in any extra ticket sales for WWE live events? WWE's anti-AEW bot army result in any extra subscribers to the WWE Network? WWE's anti-AEW bot army result in any extra t-shirt sales from the WWE Shop? The answers to those questions are no, no no, and no. Or perhaps there are a handful of people that would read an article critical of AEW and decided to buy a Becky Lynch shirt instead of watch AEW Dynamite? The idea that WWE would waste their time on such a pointless endeavour is simply ludicrious, and merely emphasises that Tony Khan is unwilling to even consider that some people don't like his precious wrestling promotion despite the positive reviews from the people that do like it. https://itrwrestling.com/news/wwe-slam-aew-gory-self-mutilation/ Quote “If you look at the gory self-mutilation that bloodied several women in the December 31 event on TNT, it quickly becomes clear that these are very different businesses. We had an edgier product in the Attitude era and in the 2022 world, we don’t believe that the type of dangerous and brutal display is appealing to network partners, sponsors, venues, children, or the general public as a whole.” It's not about individuals. It's about sponsors and other commercial partners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted April 11, 2022 Author Share Posted April 11, 2022 Unrelated, but coke makes you paranoid and possibly turns you into a paperthinskinneddognonce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 39 minutes ago, Keith Houchen said: Unrelated, but coke makes you paranoid and possibly turns you into a paperthinskinneddognonce It's probably a bit of both, paranoia from the cokehead and the evil plan from the roidhead. I'm all for a war between two million/billionaire twats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamura Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 59 minutes ago, Louch said: If you discredit the opposition you are more likely to keep customers who might try it and like it and you lose a T-shirt sale, or subscription, or ticket sale etc Really? WWE's viewership increased substantially during the Monday Night Wars and decreased when it was the only big show in town. WWE's fortunes would appear to be more related to whether people are interested in the product they are producing, not whether people are watching another promotion. 34 minutes ago, Infinity Land said: https://itrwrestling.com/news/wwe-slam-aew-gory-self-mutilation/ You do realise there's a substantial difference between the effort needed to compose and release a two-sentence statement to a newspaper and that needed to create and run an army of Twitter bots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted April 11, 2022 Author Share Posted April 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Merzbow said: It's probably a bit of both, paranoia from the cokehead and the evil plan from the roidhead. I'm all for a war between two million/billionaire twats. I reckon I’d honestly pay to see Vince kick the shit out of him, ignoring his squeals for mercy as the Connecticunt rains down on the geeky money mark as he realises this is what it’s like to not get what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merzbow Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Tamura said: Really? WWE's viewership increased substantially during the Monday Night Wars and decreased when it was the only big show in town. WWE's fortunes would appear to be more related to whether people are interested in the product they are producing, not whether people are watching another promotion. You do realise there's a substantial difference between the effort needed to compose and release a two-sentence statement to a newspaper and that needed to create and run an army of Twitter bots? Is it really that difficult, especially with who he knows? Disinformation, fake news, social media bots etc are now a normal part of everyday life. It's no longer really the thing of conspiracy, fuck, Elon Musk now owns the biggest share of Twitter so let's see how wild it gets. Edited April 11, 2022 by Merzbow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Land Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tamura said: You do realise there's a substantial difference between the effort needed to compose and release a two-sentence statement to a newspaper and that needed to create and run an army of Twitter bots? Not really. You do realise that the WWE have their own PR and Marketing department, yet still hire outside firms for particular briefs. It's just a business expense. Nobody thinks Vince and Bruce are running a bot farm out of Stamford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Nick James Posted April 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted April 11, 2022 It's quite hilarious that Tony Khan is calling foul play on people paying Bots to bad mouth AEW, all the while Brawn Strowman is claiming Tony Khan is bad mouthing CYN to hinder their growth. Both are farcical in the grand scheme, both are from the minds of paranoid individuals. Is there any evidence that it's WWE that has done it? (Can't imagine who else would be, to be honest) Impact were pretty much shafted in the AEW / Impact partnership, maybe old Scott D'amore is another suspect? I couldn't give a fuck whether it's true or not or who has done it in all honesty. It is hilarious when Tony throws the teddies out on twitter though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 It's also the fact that he's said "there's a report that shows that there's anti-AEW bots" without, you know, posting the report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted April 11, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted April 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Nick James said: It's quite hilarious that Tony Khan is calling foul play on people paying Bots to bad mouth AEW, all the while Brawn Strowman is claiming Tony Khan is bad mouthing CYN to hinder their growth. Both are farcical in the grand scheme, both are from the minds of paranoid individuals. It'd be more surprising if that lot weren't banding around conspiracy theories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted April 12, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted April 12, 2022 12 hours ago, Tamura said: Really? WWE's viewership increased substantially during the Monday Night Wars and decreased when it was the only big show in town. WWE's fortunes would appear to be more related to whether people are interested in the product they are producing, not whether people are watching another promotion. Wrestling is really a case of "a rising tide lifts all boats", and the quicker people realise that the better. Too many people seem completely stuck in the WWE's version of history where the WWF and WCW were fighting tooth and nail, and when one was on top the other was close to shuttering up for good, and think that two big companies "at war" is wrestling's default stage - TNA tried to force that perception on themselves (and plenty of fans had already done so), and obviously it's incredibly tribal between the worst of WWE and AEW's fans now. Whereas in reality, historically, smaller wrestling companies have always done better when the WWF is doing better. In 1998, both WWF and WCW were making record-breaking profits, and there was still space in the market for ECW. People watch wrestling when wrestling as a whole is a hot topic - I'm sure WWE's viewing figures went up after CM Punk debuted for AEW, purely because more people were talking about wrestling than had done in a while. The toxic brand loyalty is a recent phenomenon, and one that's probably massively overstated based on the loudest, most obnoxious voices on social media. I don't doubt that there is a study, nor do I doubt that someone (most likely WWE) has paid people to platform anti-AEW stories. There's plenty of bought-and-sold wrestling "journalists" that just regurgitate WWE press releases, some of whom were leaked fast nationals and whatnot. It's not a stretch to think that those same people would be giving their cheat-sheet of what talking points to deploy against AEW each week. Some of the criticism grows organically, but you can always tell when someone somewhere has settled on a new pet criticism - whether it's "they don't tell stories" or "they use blood too indiscriminately", suddenly it's everywhere. It's really easy, with the time and the money, to game Twitter's algorithms to spread talking points and make them seem more widespread than they really are - you see it among right wing grifters almost daily; there's countless studies tying their key points down to tiny, tiny networks of accounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted April 12, 2022 Paid Members Share Posted April 12, 2022 I reckon the study has mainly been because it's the kind of thing network executives give a shit about - negative social media responses. And it's mainly about proving to them that it's worth ignoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 Surely all the trolls have to do to prove they aren’t a bot is to show the nerdy twat their DMs, or maybe that’s only for abusers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I reckon the study has mainly been because Tony Khan has a lot of money and doesn't like things not going his way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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