The Smackers Thread

[FLips]

The Piledriver spot also reiterates that WWE operate inside their own bubble too. When we have other mainstream companies doing piledrivers often, it looks stupid when someone else in another company does a really bad looking one and they pretend it's career threatening.

[Snitsky's back acne]

Everything is perception and presentation with wrestling. If you present something as dangerous and different then it becomes that, even if it's not.

It's like people on here saying 'Rock would never come back for a match a dangerous as War Games' when, in reality, it is no more or less dangerous than a regular match. It has been presented as being so, however, and therefore this has become the accepted reality. 

[Supremo]

2 minutes ago, Snitsky's back acne said:

It's like people on here saying 'Rock would never come back for a match a dangerous as War Games' when, in reality, it is no more or less dangerous than a regular match. 

It will be that night.

[LaGoosh]

2 minutes ago, Snitsky's back acne said:

If you present something as dangerous and different then it becomes that, even if it's not.

Wrong. It only becomes that if it's believable and logical enough for the audience to accept. And while wrestling fans can be fickle, most of them don't blindly accept everything they are presented with. 

[Arch Stanton]

6 minutes ago, LaGoosh said:

Wrong. It only becomes that if it's believable and logical enough for the audience to accept. And while wrestling fans can be fickle, most of them don't blindly accept everything they are presented with. 

The audience know it's a work, they will accept the storyline. It's all fine. The only ones kicking up a stink are those like yourself that seem desperate to pick holes in anything WWE are doing.

[LaGoosh]

6 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

The only ones kicking up a stink are those like yourself that seem desperate to pick holes in anything WWE are doing

How is reasonable discussion kicking up a stink or desperation to pick holes exactly?

[Arch Stanton]

Just kinda comes across that way on here.

[Mr Butternut Squash]

I hate strecher angles but it was cool to see a piledriver sold like death. Thought the commentary team did a good job selling it too.

Bloodline stuff is good but has the feeling of them rushing through the beats before The Rock turns up to rip up the script.

 

[LaGoosh]

5 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

Just kinda comes across that way on here.

I don't think it does. It's reasonable and fair discussion and criticism of wrestling which is what this place is for. 

[Lion_of_the_Midlands]

26 minutes ago, LaGoosh said:

I don't think it does. It's reasonable and fair discussion and criticism of wrestling which is what this place is for. 

Chips, condiments and talking about having a shit is what this place is for. Anything else is just collateral damage. 

 

[DavidB6937]

I think it's fair if some people didn't buy into the piledriver stuff.

Just like I think it's fair people like myself did enjoy it and thought it worked well.

Neither opinion has to be driven by an agenda or company bias.

[mim731]

8 hours ago, wandshogun09 said:

As usual, the answer is ‘it looked great when Bret did it’.

[Supremo]

Not that I’ve finally mopped up all the jizz, as good as that ending was, it’s this shot that’s stayed with me. Absolute magic. Incredible performers, shot beautifully, performing the best storyline in the history of the company. Boom concentrate.

[OzExile]

Already looking beyond all the current possible and probable storylines, I would love nothing more than a callback of Evolution's double cross of Randy Orton when Sami finally wins the big gold.  His chemistry with Roman is like nothing else on the roster. 

[Hannibal Scorch]

21 hours ago, Mr_Danger said:

For as shit as that piledriver looked it’s a perfect example of how WWE can do more with less. It’s not about the execution looking deadly it’s the fallout and aftermath. One shit piledriver and a neck brace has more effect on my dumb brain than Canadian Destroyers on aprons and atomic piledrivers from the top turnbuckle.

AEW did a middle rope piledriver and put MJF in a neck brace for weeks after just 2 months ago. YES IT WAS FROM THE MIDDLE ROPE, I am just pointing out the argument that one does stupid spots with no real long lasting impact and the other one doesn't because it's rare is silly tribal bollocks. Owen's Piledriver looked shit PURELY because of the angle it was filmed at. Had they used the hardcam or an angle from behind, we wouldn't be having any discourse.