mikehoncho Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 How did Hager & Mysterio survive in the UK for 5Star??
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted June 20, 2020 Paid Members Posted June 20, 2020 4 hours ago, mikehoncho said: How did Hager & Mysterio survive in the UK for 5Star?? ??
Paid Members Maverick Posted June 21, 2020 Paid Members Posted June 21, 2020 Shamrock vs Austin done properly in 98 or early 99 was a massive missed opportunity. If they built Shamrock it would have drawn huge IMO.
Paid Members mim731 Posted June 21, 2020 Paid Members Posted June 21, 2020 Today I learned that Macho Man Randy Savage has a voice cameo in the Disney film Bolt. Odd.
Paid Members Tommy! Posted June 21, 2020 Paid Members Posted June 21, 2020 7 hours ago, Maverick said: Shamrock vs Austin done properly in 98 or early 99 was a massive missed opportunity. If they built Shamrock it would have drawn huge IMO. I agree, but the difficulty is fitting it in. By the time you get to mid / late 98 something better was available in Rock from that rock / shamrock program. Coupled with that Austin was getting picky on who he'd work with and started bitching to Vince he wanted to work with undertaker or Foley again and again and again and Shamrock was still very stiff which was an out he could use. What from 98 early 99 would you drop or change for Austin to fit in a run with Shamrock and how would you build shamrock for it, out of interest. I'd say late 98 is the best option, in place of that boring buried alive affair that just left Austin injured, but it's how you reheat shamrock at that time.
Pogue Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 Seeing Ian's post about the makeup of the WWE backstage staff in the speaking out thread made me think of something, why do they have such a massive writing team? Is it to do with looking more professional to the TV networks? Just seems odd they used to do Raw and SmackDown with Vince and 3 or 4 others and now they need loads to write pretty much one hour more (I'd assume NXT have their own team)
The Dart Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 While the writing team is way too big I'm sure, remember that if someone says there's "30 writiers", 8-10 of those writiers are probably writer's assistants, 5 probably write for the website, 5 write for the YouTube videos etc.
Paid Members Tommy! Posted June 21, 2020 Paid Members Posted June 21, 2020 When Smackdown was first set to come onboard Russo asked for his pay to be doubled, as he was now writing for 2 shows and twice the airtime and Vince told him to fuck himself. How long after they went to 4/5 hours of story driven TV did they start getting more non wrestling writers in out of interest? I've always assumed the days of Cornette, JR, Patterson and Vince bashing out 6 weeks of TV while drinking around his pool died out around 2000/2001
Paid Members garynysmon Posted June 21, 2020 Paid Members Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Tommy! said: I've always assumed the days of Cornette, JR, Patterson and Vince bashing out 6 weeks of TV while drinking around his pool died out around 2000/2001 Well that would partially explain its popularity falling off a cliff then.
Paid Members Tommy! Posted June 21, 2020 Paid Members Posted June 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, garynysmon said: Well that would partially explain its popularity falling off a cliff then. Coincidence I'm sure, but I remember it being around then when writers from outside wrestling started filtering in more and being talked about on newz~ sites and the writing and booking side all seemed to be becoming a more formal affair. Didn't steph start taking more of a creative handle with her own team around then too?
CavemanLynn Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 I don't know if the figures match the opinion, but with the big boom periods being associated with talent being given rein to be themselves, give their own promos and call their matches (in line with the storyline goals), were there particular incidents along the way that shifted things toward and into the 100% scripted WWE we now have?
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted June 21, 2020 Paid Members Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, CavemanLynn said: I don't know if the figures match the opinion, but with the big boom periods being associated with talent being given rein to be themselves, give their own promos and call their matches (in line with the storyline goals), were there particular incidents along the way that shifted things toward and into the 100% scripted WWE we now have? I don't know that there were specific events that made them change but there were certainly issues such as the episode of Raw that went off air before HBK's superkick in 1997 because Bret rambled too long. I suspect their desire to get away from being pigeon-holed as a wrestling company, the addition of new voices like Stephanie onto the booking team and the increase in TV and PPV output led to the evolution into what they have now. The hiring of proper TV writers and heavy scripting of the shows has happened for a long time now. There'll be few people involved who have any memory of the good old days and their are few people on the roster who have cut promos without them being scripted. It isn't changing anytime soon.
Pogue Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 Wasn't Chris Kreski given a lot of credit for 2000 being the greatest year of wrestling ever? I assume he had no background in wrestling
Paid Members unfitfinlay Posted June 23, 2020 Paid Members Posted June 23, 2020 Talking about Lars Sullivan in the AEW thread and it made me wonder how the fuck he's still employed? His main roster call up has been a total disaster. He had a breakdown before his debut, which forced them to scrap his feud with Cena. He got outed both for making horrible comments online AND starring in gay porn videos and he's been out for over a year with an injury. Considering how many people they've gotten rid of lately it seems insane that they've kept him.
DavidB6937 Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, unfitfinlay said: Talking about Lars Sullivan in the AEW thread and it made me wonder how the fuck he's still employed? His main roster call up has been a total disaster. He had a breakdown before his debut, which forced them to scrap his feud with Cena. He got outed both for making horrible comments online AND starring in gay porn videos and he's been out for over a year with an injury. Considering how many people they've gotten rid of lately it seems insane that they've kept him. Not really. He's exactly the kind of person Vince loves.
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