Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted February 15, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 15, 2018 Yeah, but welterweight in boxing is different to welterweight in MMA. A welterweight boxer is 140-147lbs. I don't think Floyd has ever fought above 154ish. Someone might be able to correct me on that but off the top of my head I think he was between 147-154 for the Canelo fight. And the Cotto fight as well. That's light middleweight. Without checking, I think 170 in boxing is about light heavyweight. I don't think Floyd would fight so heavy. He only fought McGregor because McGregor cut down to 154 and has weighed in in the UFC between 145-155. I don't know how big Punk is but I'd assume he's not really used to cutting weight. Fuck knows maybe they could agree on a catchweight somewhere between. Like 160-something. IF it was happening. Which it's not for the reasons Egg's already covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooner Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, wandshogun09 said: Yeah, but welterweight in boxing is different to welterweight in MMA. A welterweight boxer is 140-147lbs. I don't think Floyd has ever fought above 154ish. Someone might be able to correct me on that but off the top of my head I think he was between 147-154 for the Canelo fight. And the Cotto fight as well. That's light middleweight. You are spot on. The highest Floyd has gone up in weight division is to Light-Middle but highest he has ever weighed for a fight on the scales the day beforehand is 151lbs against Miguel Cotto. I can't see him going all the way up to 170lbs unless it's ridiculous numbers and he knows he is going to win. A fight against McGregor for the 155lbs Lightweight title is possible though if he decides he wants to come to MMA, make lots of money and get another W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Oh, more spoilsports I see! Coming in here with their big talk about weight classes and all manner of sensible shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 15, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 15, 2018 3 hours ago, David said: Stop being a spoilsport, Ebb. Join in the outlandish fight breakdowns like the rest of us! sorry boys 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted February 15, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 15, 2018 I was thinking about that proposed Gina Carano vs. Ronda Rousey fight today. Remember when there was talk of that happening and everyone thought it was a ridiculous cash-grabbing mismatch? Now that we've seen how Ronda completely fell for her own hype around that time, with her downfall coming when Edmund convinced her she was a world class striker, how do people think that fight would've gone? How was Gina's striking? Could we have seen the upset, with Gina coming in and winning the title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 15, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 15, 2018 The thing about Carano is that she was around in the "proto-WMMA" days, before everything was starting to coalesce, I think. Looking at her record, she never fought anyone that Rousey did, and her only loss was to Cyborg, which doesn't tell us anything, really. It would certainly be interesting to see, given that Holm basically revealed the blueprint for beating Rousey, but given how long Carano had been away, it's difficult to know if she'd have retained the necessary skills to beat Rousey. Bear in mind, Holm was an elite striker - apart from Cyborg, I don't know of anyone else at the time at that weight who had the striking credentials to beat her (although wand probably knows). And Rousey did well for a deluded egomaniac - she beat two women with strikes in almost the same time she beat all the others with armbars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted February 16, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 16, 2018 I agree Carbomb. People seem to downplay Rousey's abilities quite a bit now, seeing how exposed she was against better fighters. Realistically, Holm and Nunes are two of the best female strikers we've ever seen in MMA - one a seasoned champion boxer, the other with a terrifying combination of technique and power, which is very rare in the division. Both Nunes and Holm stopped every underhook attempt Rousey scrambled to get, as she proceeded to get lit up and eventually finished. Can Carano stop the underhooks and is she an elite women's MMA striker? That's up for debate. I think Carbomb pointing out Carano is from the dark ages of women's MMA is important, because as we've seen with Rousey, the game has improved so much since Strikeforce was a thing. The reason Rousey stood out so much is that she was running through that level in no time at all. If Rousey establishes her grip anyone is fucked, though. Even more so if she fucks off Huckster Edmund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 A really important about Rousey is that she was living the MMA evolution in an era when the men's game had already evolved. She was a Royce Gracie or a Mark Coleman type character. A specialist who was destined to get caught out when the game around her evolved to the point where the girls were skilled at all aspects of the game. But, because fans had already seen the mens game evolve, they didn't all appreciate what Ronda was or was going through (and she didn't have much good will with the fans anyway), so when she was lost it was just that she was 'shit' or whatever. Ronda is as legit as fuck, and has absolutely terrifying world class judo. Still to this today if she gets her hips in place, and a firm grip of you, you're going for a fucking spin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I was never a big fan of Rousey, but it was clear as day from what I did see that a lot of her game relied on the mental aspect. She was doing great when she was on a roll and seemed unbeatable, but as soon as she was beaten she took it incredibly badly, and I don't think she ever recovered from that. Once she lost it broke her mentally for some reason, which is insane considering what she did before MMA and so on. Doubt we'll see her back now. She's not got the same drive for fighting that she had when she was riding high. WWE is the best place for her now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Egg Shen Posted February 16, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 16, 2018 Carano was a fair size bigger than Rousey and would have handily beaten Rousey in any kind of standup fight. At the same time though i don't think Carano ever dealt with anyone who had Rousey's kind of skillset. In hindsight and post-defeats i think i'd lean towards Carano. Kind of miss Carano though, if the UFC had bitten the bullet on women's MMA and brought her in before Rousey she could have been a much bigger star than she was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members WeeAl Posted February 18, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 18, 2018 MMA fighting have confirmed Belfort Vs Machida is booked for UFC 224. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted February 18, 2018 Paid Members Share Posted February 18, 2018 So that's two more potential Bisping opponents booked up. Are the UFC coming back to the UK later in the year this year? They usually do a show around October/November time over here. Maybe he'll have his farewell then. I think he will end up having one more fight from little things he's said on his podcast. Just a question of when, where and who against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 There's no real rush, he could probably do with an extended break after that KO against Gastelum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimufctna24 Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 I think Bisping will end up fighting Rashad towards the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TildeGuy~! Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 So McGregor posted this on social media earlier.. I am fighting again. Period. I am the best at this. I put my name forward to step in at UFC 222 to face Frankie Edgar when Max Holloway pulled out, but I was told there wasn't enough time to generate the money that the UFC would need.I was excited about bouncing in last minute and taking out the final featherweight, without all the rest of the stuff that comes with this game. Please respect the insane amount of work outside the fight game that I have put in. On top of the fighting. I am here. It is on them to come and get me. Because I am here. Yours sincerely, The Champ Champ™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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