Lord-Mountevans Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Tommy! said: The Bernard Manning memorial school of comedy was it. Lesson 2: sitting in your custard stained pants explaining how your not a racist because darkies and pakis enjoy your shows. I am not entirely sure where this little rant came from? What the tutors said was that no subject is off limits, just as long as you can justify your material from the heart, if you are confronted by anyone who questioned the nature of your material and the sentiment behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Surely most comics should avoid Brexit on the basis of it being far too easy and the chance of crossing materials with all the other comedians doing it is pretty high. Plus, the reality of it is far funnier than anything you could make up. It's like Richard Herrings take on Trump, if you wrote that chatacter in fiction he'd be far too unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted October 12, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lord-Mountevans said: little rant That's as close to a rant as you are to being funny I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Mountevans Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 34 minutes ago, Tommy! said: That's as close to a rant as you are to being funny I'm afraid. Which is an accurate description of someone who is not even trying to be funny, just sharing opinions on comedy and comedy shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Dead Mike Posted October 12, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, wordsfromlee said: Tons of comedians do material on Brexit. Some comics even have entire shows based around it. Matt Forde had 'Brexit Through The Gift Shop' in 2018 and 'Brexit, Pursued By a Bear' this year. Nish Kumar had 'It's in Your Nature to Destroy Yourself'. Club comics will often skirt around the subject as the audience will be very mixed. Touring acts, who have their own audience, will find it easier to do material on topics like that as the majority of crowd will already be on their side of thinking and they're less likely to lose a crowd or have some turn on you. Exactly this. I've seen comics mention Brexit but nobody on the circuit is going out on a wekeend night & doing material that's either leave or remain as it's a sure fire way to alienate half of the room. Just last night I had a comedianwho does lots of topical stuff telling me that he could do stuff about Theresa May & it worked in front of audiences of all political persuasiosn. Boris Johnson far less so because he's seen as Mr Brexit & so crowds are getting pissy, they're opinions are so entrenched it's taken as a personal sleight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsfromlee Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Same goes with people like Frankie Boyle. His stuff wouldn’t really work in a comedy club as the audience are too varied. But once you get to the level he’s at and playing the rooms he does, then the majority of the audience are there to see him and already know the type of material he’ll be doing so are on board with it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Dead Mike Posted October 12, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2019 Nah, I saw Frankie Boyle a bunch of times when he was still on the circuit & he smashed every time. Seeing him in front of an audience who weren't there for him was an absolute joy, you'd hear people laugh then instantly stifle it so as not to be seen to be laughing at his jokes. His success however led to bunch of new acts thinking you just had to get up there & say 'paedophile' and you'd get laughs. I saw some terrible deaths from edgelord open spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Mr_Danger said: Surely most comics should avoid Brexit on the basis of it being far too easy and the chance of crossing materials with all the other comedians doing it is pretty high. But the point of Brexit material generally isn’t to get laughs, it’s to get agreement applause, so having the same take on it as the last thousand comics your audience saw isn’t going to hurt you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, King Pitcos said: But the point of Brexit material generally isn’t to get laughs, it’s to get agreement applause, so having the same take on it as the last thousand comics your audience saw isn’t going to hurt you. That's just the reason I personally wouldn't want to do Brexit if I was a stand up S opposed to Mountevans workshops reason. Fair enough if you have a fresh or original take on it but the chances are you probably wouldn't and creatively it's a bit of a cop out. You might as well list things you remember from your childhood if you want agreement applause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Peter Kays son in 30 years: “Remember Brexit? What were all that about?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Pitcos Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr_Danger said: That's just the reason I personally wouldn't want to do Brexit if I was a stand up S opposed to Mountevans workshops reason. Fair enough if you have a fresh or original take on it but the chances are you probably wouldn't and creatively it's a bit of a cop out. You might as well list things you remember from your childhood if you want agreement applause. People care more about Brexit though. So if you know you’re in a pro-Brexit or anti-Brexit room, you’ll get the big claps and whoops just doing a thing that echoes and reinforces their beliefs. A comedian who wants to do anything creative or challenging with Brexit material has to step outside of that echo chamber, and any deviation from the party line runs a risk of alienating your fanbase. So I can understand why all the Brexit material exists, and why so much of it is just lazy shite. I just don’t enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members JNLister Posted October 12, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, SuperBacon said: Peter Kays son in 30 years: “Remember Brexit? What were all that about?” Or "Remember Brexit? How come that's still going on?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Accident Prone Posted October 14, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/12/2019 at 5:09 PM, SuperBacon said: Peter Kays son in 30 years: “Remember Brexit? What were all that about?” Garlic Phone?? GARLIC PHONE??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Dead Mike Posted November 4, 2019 Paid Members Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just a heads up for anyone on here who isn't a prick. Alexei Sayle has announced his first proper tour in 7 years. On sale this Friday Friday 31st January: Manchester HomeSaturday 1st February: Manchester HomeMonday 3rd February: Winchester Theatre RoyalTuesday 4th February: Winchester Theatre RoyalSaturday 15th February: Nottingham PlayhouseMonday 17th February: Norwich PlayhouseTuesday 18th February: Norwich PlayhouseFriday 21st February: Oxford PlayhouseSaturday 22nd February: Oxford PlayhouseFriday 28th February: Birmingham MACSaturday 29th February: Birmingham MACWednesday 4th March: Exeter PhoenixThursday 5th March: Exeter PhoenixThursday 12th March: Liverpool Epstein TheatreFriday 13th March: Liverpool Epstein TheatreSaturday 14th March: Liverpool Epstein TheatreTuesday 17th March: Sheffield Memorial HallWednesday 18th March: Sheffield Memorial HallWednesday 25th March: Bristol The Redgrave TheatreThursday 26th March: Bristol The Redgrave TheatreFriday 3rd April: Margate Theatre RoyalSaturday 4th April: Margate Theatre RoyalMonday 6th April: London BloomsburyTuesday 7th April: London Bloomsbury Will likely try & get tickets for Manchester and take my mum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factotum Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Nice! I really liked his Radio 4 show recently. Was great to have him back. Probably doing it to piss Ben Elton off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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