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1 hour ago, Carbomb said:

Also, @Gus Mears is right about the recent corruption, but I get the impression there might be a wider resentment directly against Infantino - he's pissed off a lot of people, and they're probably just sick of him. He's the Donald Trump of football, damaging FIFA's standing with his corrupt bullshit, so, as you say, makes it easier to claim corruption even when there is none.

Just on this, it's actually not true. Infantino is so popular he's already got enough votes from global federations and associations to win the next election without contest. He's wildly popular outside the traditional footballing nations for the amount of money and resources that does go into growing the game in new places. And... other reasons, i'm sure.

This is a good read on his popularity: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgmmmgemd8o

The traditional football markets hate him, but his argument would be because he's deliberately moving the game away from them to new places. So yeah, probably a huge twat, but we're in a bias bubble a bit and he's almost certainly here to stay and quite popular, too.

 

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28 minutes ago, d-d-d-dAz said:

Just on this, it's actually not true. Infantino is so popular he's already got enough votes from global federations and associations to win the next election without contest. He's wildly popular outside the traditional footballing nations for the amount of money and resources that does go into growing the game in new places. And... other reasons, i'm sure.

This is a good read on his popularity: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cvgmmmgemd8o

The traditional football markets hate him, but his argument would be because he's deliberately moving the game away from them to new places. So yeah, probably a huge twat, but we're in a bias bubble a bit and he's almost certainly here to stay and quite popular, too.

 

Wow. That's both impressive and depressing.

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I'm not saying it is fixed but hear me out on this. 

Trump is obviously going to present the winners with the trophy. Obviously he would prefer to present it to the USA team captain. FIFA tried to give that some help with the whole Balogun situation but ultimately the Belgians put paid to that. 

Trump definitely doesn't want to present it to an African team, especially an Arabic country like Egypt or Morocco. He'd probably prefer not to present it to a European team considering what he thinks of the EU and Nato. 

Argentina on the other hand has a president cast very much in the mold of Trump. A nice little sit watching a game he doesn't understand with his friends Javier Milei and Gianni Infantino before presenting the trophy to Messi and at the end of the night taking it back to the Oval Office and putting it next to the trophy that Chelsea aren't allowed to keep. 

Now that obviously belongs in the conspiracy theory thread but maybe not. Infantino can't give him another peace prize. 

 

 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, DavidB6937 said:

Trump's going to find a way to win it himself.

Hasn’t he been granted the option (which he’ll definitely take them up on) to be in the photo of the winning team lifting the trophy? I’m sure that was one

of the conditions mentioning alongside the phoney peace prize he was given 

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18 minutes ago, WyattSheepMask said:

Hasn’t he been granted the option (which he’ll definitely take them up on) to be in the photo of the winning team lifting the trophy? I’m sure that was one

of the conditions mentioning alongside the phoney peace prize he was given 

It'll be like that shot in The Simpsons where Mr. Burns has his face taped over Muhammad Ali knocking out Sonny Liston and all the players will be replaced by his children and favourite cronies.

Actually it'll be just his head on all of them won't it.

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59 minutes ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said:

So completely at random all the officials for the France v Morocco game are from Argentina. I can't imagine that there is any potential for bias in that. 

The Ref, both linesman and the VAR official were French for the Argentina/Egypt game too.

Don't think it matters, unless you think the officials are corrupt.

 

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1 hour ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said:

So completely at random all the officials for the France v Morocco game are from Argentina. I can't imagine that there is any potential for bias in that. 

I can't see much in it to be honest. Now if an all Argentina team were reffing a Germany match, that would be biased for sure, homeland allegiances and all that.

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58 minutes ago, The King of Old School said:

The Ref, both linesman and the VAR official were French for the Argentina/Egypt game too.

Don't think it matters, unless you think the officials are corrupt.

 

No I think everyone in FIFA is 100% above board. 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said:

No I think everyone in FIFA is 100% above board. 

If we're talking FIFA as an organisation, then I agree with the sarcasm.

That's not what I asked though.

The referees don't work directly for FIFA, so do you think they are corrupt and in on something as to why they can't referee that match?

 

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6 minutes ago, The King of Old School said:

If we're talking FIFA as an organisation, then I agree with the sarcasm.

That's not what I asked though.

The referees don't work directly for FIFA, so do you think they are corrupt and in on something as to why they can't referee that match?

 

I actually don't think that referees from any of the nations left in the quarter finals should referee any of the other games. That way there can be no question of bias. 

How do the referees nor work for FIFA? They were selected by the FIFA Referees Committee that was chaired by the FIFA Chief Refereeing Officer. They qualify by refereeing in FIFA tournaments, but you are probably right they don't work directly for FIFA. 

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I always assumed people saying FIFA outcomes were scripted were talking about the computer game.

Not so sure these days.

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