DavidB6937 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Problem is there's obviously a huge difference between suspecting stuff and/or hearing rumours and actually seeing/knowing this stuff as fact. Now we don't know who knew what or anything like that but it obviously wouldn't be the first time someone has manipulated and lied to people extremely close to them. So we can't just assume everyone knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted January 26 Paid Members Share Posted January 26 Put it like this, if McMahon is showing nude photos of her to random tech guys typing out the alumni bio of the Berzerker, then I think its fair to say Michael Hayes or Triple H know about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted January 26 Paid Members Share Posted January 26 According to the documents Steph and HHH were part of the internal investigation team. The ones that chose not to interview the accuser. i mean this, which happened the night Vince stepped down, has aged like spoiled milk. All I’m saying is I don’t believe she had no idea. She was already aware of Vince’s infidelity though, and there is no way i believe she had heard no such rumours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Well if shitting is involved then we can rule out Brisco being involved. As always, I hope everyone involved does time. As always, I know they won’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUM Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I think it’s likely people knew but didn’t realise the type of relationship it was and just assumed it was mad Vince being one of the boys with his chat and pictures without actually thinking “he’s abusing this girl”. I’m absolutely not defending that or saying that is the right culture but I doubt they’ve really thought much deeper into the full extent of the relationship. I imagine, even for those who knew of her, the actual full story comes as a bit of a surprise too. Maybe I’d just rather think that many people wouldn’t fully stand back though as it’s horrible to think not one person stepped in knowing the extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 It's one of those things that's incredibly clear and obvious when you're on the outside looking in, judging on things we've been told etc. To be in the middle of that shitstorm, especially as a family member, is a whole different ballgame. We don't know what Steph knew, or if Vince manipulated her in any way, or anything really. All speculation - as is a lot of wrestling discussion and gossip - but as others have said, you'd at least HOPE that it wasn't a bunch of people sitting by and letting all this shit happen. There's far more to come I imagine, and I'm not sure we'll ever know everything or be able to comprehend the magnitude of it all, but you have to believe there's a lot of people sitting around incredibly guilty by association and worrying about who may come for them next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 19 minutes ago, FUM said: think it’s likely people knew but didn’t realise the type of relationship it was and just assumed it was mad Vince being one of the boys with his chat and pictures without actually thinking “he’s abusing this girl”. Yeah, we’ve all worked in places where we knew managers and supervisors shagging temps and sharing stories, and more than often they were married. A warehouse I worked in was awful for it and there was a cabal of people in roles of authority up to no good. One girl dumped one of them so he shared a video of her noshing him off and it was treated with plenty of “Waheeyyyyy” and snide remarks to her and none of the managers who saw and shared the vid did fuck all to stop it. She put up a brave face but it was killing her. I pointed out to her that even though it was filmed at work, she was still the victim and said how he used a work phone to film it. Ultimately that got him sacked, not revenge porning her but misuse of company property. Shortly after a female director was appointed and the culture changed a little, but they never reflected on their actions, just moaned they couldn’t do it anymore without repercussions. So yeah, I agree it’s knowing that something was happening but not the details, and how bad the culture of a workplace adds to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browser Brady Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Shareprice is currently down about a dollar from yesterday, its at 87.25 USD now. would have expected a lot bigger drop to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members wandshogun09 Posted January 26 Paid Members Share Posted January 26 I should’ve known better than to bother with it but there’s a video of Cornette reacting to all this from his podcast with Brian Last and they’re literally chuckling and making a joke of it while reading out the stuff that’s in the opening post of this thread. I got a few minutes in before turning it off. Vile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinity Land Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 13 minutes ago, DavidB6937 said: It's one of those things that's incredibly clear and obvious when you're on the outside looking in, judging on things we've been told etc. To be in the middle of that shitstorm, especially as a family member, is a whole different ballgame. We don't know what Steph knew, or if Vince manipulated her in any way, or anything really. All speculation - as is a lot of wrestling discussion and gossip - but as others have said, you'd at least HOPE that it wasn't a bunch of people sitting by and letting all this shit happen. There's far more to come I imagine, and I'm not sure we'll ever know everything or be able to comprehend the magnitude of it all, but you have to believe there's a lot of people sitting around incredibly guilty by association and worrying about who may come for them next. Rita Chatterton The tanning salon worker The original WSJ reporting from 2022 had these descriptions for the other people with NDAs Spoiler There was a $7.5 million pact with a former wrestler that alleged that McMahon coerced her into giving her oral sex and then demoted her and then declined to renew her contract in 2005 after she resisted more sexual encounters. A WWE contractor presented the company with unsolicited nude photos of McMahon that she reportedly received from him and McMahon agreed to pay this person $1 million. There was reportedly a 2006 agreement with a former manager who worked for McMahon and it was claimed that the manager was paid $1 million to keep quiet about a sexual relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted January 26 Paid Members Share Posted January 26 (edited) 41 minutes ago, FUM said: I think it’s likely people knew but didn’t realise the type of relationship it was and just assumed it was mad Vince being one of the boys with his chat and pictures without actually thinking “he’s abusing this girl”. I'm loathe to make this a "wrestling" issue over a corporate shitshow abuse of power issue, but a lot of Vince's inner circle have been so entrenched in the wrestling business and nothing else for decades. If they're even capable of recognising abuse, they're going to have a very different benchmark for what they consider to be abuse (with the caveat that plenty of men in all walks of life still seem to struggle with this) - do you think somebody like, for example, Michael Hayes, who was living it up in the Dallas territory in the '80s, and has his own allegations of inappropriate workplace relationships, would have the slightest idea how to properly recognise signs of abuse? EDIT: And hearing that Cornette is laughing it up doesn't surprise me at all, and only supports my point- he's the guy that other wrestlers and his fans insist is a "progressive" because he dislikes Donald Trump, yet repeatedly shows himself to be a rampant misogynist who doesn't give a single fuck about the safety of women. And he's another one who was in the inner circle, invited to the house, once upon a time. If people in his position think it's all a joke, no wonder he's able to get away with it (though of course the main reason he gets away with it is that he's able to buy people off). Edited January 26 by BomberPat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buba3d Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hannibal Scorch said: According to the documents Steph and HHH were part of the internal investigation team. The ones that chose not to interview the accuser. i mean this, which happened the night Vince stepped down, has aged like spoiled milk. All I’m saying is I don’t believe she had no idea. She was already aware of Vince’s infidelity though, and there is no way i believe she had heard no such rumours. One allegation in the lawsuit was that Grant claimed that no one spoke to her or utilized any documentation she had during the WWE Board of Directors investigation into Vince McMahon. PWInsider.com is told that investigation was conducted by a third-party, not WWE itself. While the Wall Street Journal has surmised the WWE talent Grant mentions in her lawsuit is Brock Lesnar, Lesnar is never named in the suit and is not a defendant in the lawsuit. https://pwinsider.com/article/179664/answering-some-of-your-vince-mcmahon-lawsuit-questions.html?p=1 Edited January 26 by buba3d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 The story is getting mainstream attention in the UK now too, it’s currently on the BBC homepage and the 6th most read story - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68104198 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted January 26 Paid Members Share Posted January 26 Yes. Now is the time to pull his merch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Duke Posted January 26 Paid Members Share Posted January 26 11 minutes ago, Supremo said: Yes. Now is the time to pull his merch. Mission accomplished everyone. Let's go home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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