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If the rumours are true that khan paid $30 million, it feels more like it’s content to have for a future tv rights contract to add to their own back catalogue. Running it as it’s own shows when it’s nowhere close to what the aew name is now just feels like the plaything side that there’s a few on here have persistently accused him of using aew as since the start. 

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It'd serve well as a developmental for them, but it'd also potentially tarnish RoH if it did end up just being an extension of Dark/Elevation. What would the Ring of Honor fans make of Michael Nakazawa strolling out there with his headset and his laptop? 

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1 minute ago, jazzygeofferz said:

It'd serve well as a developmental for them, but it'd also potentially tarnish RoH if it did end up just being an extension of Dark/Elevation. What would the Ring of Honor fans make of Michael Nakazawa strolling out there with his headset and his laptop? 

Nothing. The days of ROH being a super serious show are long past.

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Does AEW even need a developmental brand, given that talent is free to work on the indie scene? 

I honestly think it’s more likely that, if ROH does return, it’ll be in the form of a One Night Stand-style reunion show, rather than a permanent brand. I just don’t see much value in doing that, any potential profit would be minuscule in the grand scheme of things.

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Amazon paid $250 million for the rights to Lord of the Rings to make the TV Series. Each season has a budget of $100-150 million and they 5 put in a 5 season commitment. 
 

Disney+ Have a 130m subscribers. Netflix 222m. WWE Network had 1.5m. Paying an average of $10 per month. Peacock just paid $1b for a 5 year deal to bring that to them in the US alone. 
 

2 hours ago, Devon Malcolm said:

If these rumours are true then he's a fucking mug. $30 million for Ring of Honor, honestly.

TNT originally paid $50m a year for AEW Dynamite. ROH with 20 years of content plus all their IP, equipment and facilities for $30m in todays market is an absolute steal for what it gives them. 

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Roh could be handy to run events at mania and summerslam weekends where aew have stayed away from to avoid the ‘Less than’ stink that comes with it 

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27 minutes ago, RedRooster said:

Does AEW even need a developmental brand, given that talent is free to work on the indie scene?

Some do, some don't. Think that's part of the problem.

Think about some of the Nightmare Family, the wrestling school side of things. There's been a lot of graduates that have come through there now and don't really have the links to the indies. So either aren't chasing bookings or feel cushty just taking their AEW pay without further bookings.

I don't really watch Dark anymore. It's nothing but squash matches. That might be handy for an individual to work on their timing, movesets and mannerisms. I don't care though. How often are they cutting a promo or in a feud and developing that side of things. Even if they changed Dark to that it's a case of diminishing returns it's 4th on the depth chart. It'd be like convincing someone to watch WWE Main Event.

Stick it under the ROH banner. It would find it's own audience. In the same way there are people out there watching MLW, NWA, NJ Strong or NXT UK.

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7 hours ago, Hannibal Scorch said:

Amazon paid $250 million for the rights to Lord of the Rings to make the TV Series. Each season has a budget of $100-150 million and they 5 put in a 5 season commitment. 
 

Disney+ Have a 130m subscribers. Netflix 222m. WWE Network had 1.5m. Paying an average of $10 per month. Peacock just paid $1b for a 5 year deal to bring that to them in the US alone. 
 

TNT originally paid $50m a year for AEW Dynamite. ROH with 20 years of content plus all their IP, equipment and facilities for $30m in todays market is an absolute steal for what it gives them. 

Can you expand on how AEW would get a return on $30m if indeed that is the real figure? Seems ridiculously inflated.

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15 minutes ago, IronSheik said:

Can you expand on how AEW would get a return on $30m if indeed that is the real figure? Seems ridiculously inflated.

What is this Judge Judy?

Ok how about this. As has been rumoured there maybe an AEW HBO Max deal in the future. We already know what TNT (part of the same company) pay a year for Dynamite. So they might say that they will offer $80m a year to be the exclusive home for future shows and past content. They could then say, that’s great but did you know we have an extensive library of another promotion, 20 years worth of content on top of all our AEW content? We could add that to the deal and that gives you 1000’s more hours of content meaning it gives the consumer more of an inset I’ve to buy HBO Max sports. That deal is now worth £200m because it’s the content they want and the more content you have, the more interested they are in filling their library.

Its all hypothetical. But look at the WWE Network. If it was £10 a month for just PPV’s and month old TV, people wouldn’t keep it every month they would just pay for January, April, August and November. It’s all the library content. That’s where the money is because that keeps subscribers.

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2 minutes ago, Your Fight Site said:

And to think Vince allegedly only paid around $4 million for WCW and it’s tape library.

Inflation.

Your absolutely right. It was the perfect storm though. AOL/Time Warner were in the absolute shits as that merger was a colossal mistake and they were desperate to get rid of WCW. Also, no one could see what would happen in the next decade with the explosion of streaming. I mean what did WWE do with the library for years? Put out the odd compilation, documentaries and used the clips as footage in various projects. They didn’t even put any WCW PPV’s on on DVD.

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10 minutes ago, Your Fight Site said:

Only inflation is ROH’s worth if that’s what TK paid for it.

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/2001

Yeah I elaborated after you explain better. WWE struck gold in a fire sale when no-one else was interested. One of the great business deals for them in our lifetime.

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