Paid Members Supremo Posted July 19, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted July 19, 2020 Imagine you had so many accusations against you that it takes you an hour to address them all, and then you still think recording and publishing the video is a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted July 19, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted July 19, 2020 Bix has been pretty good at highlighting key points on his twitter. The amazing thing is how much Ryan basically admits while trying to spin it. He admits flirting with a teenage trainee, he admits 'invading personal space', he admits being aggressive and pushy... it's just that in all of this, he's tried to spin it that he's not a bad guy. I talked about this on twitter, but it raises the point that a lot of what #MeToo was about was highlighting how common harassment and assault was - particularly harassment. I've recently been reading White Fragility, which talks about how defensive white people can get around racism, because they've been taught that racism is an active, targeted and evil thing. And they aren't actively racist, they don't target people, and most of all, they're not 'evil'. Whereas racism (particularly systemic and cultural racism) is something that many people do, including those that think of themselves as 'good'. It's similar here. It seems like Joey Ryan has in mind this idea of how the behaviour he's being accused of is something only an 'evil' person could do. And he doesn't think of himself as an evil guy. However, what he's actually doing is centring himself in the narrative and not concentrating on how he made the women in question feel. He's too busy thinking of himself as a good guy, so there must be another explanation. Caveat that I'm going off clips and not the whole thing because I'm not spending an hour watching Joey fucking Ryan defending himself. Between them, the Knights and Quackenbush going on for ages, you could spend longer than most Marvel movies watching wrestlers making things worse by trying to defend themselves against allegations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted July 19, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted July 19, 2020 I’m getting a bit fed up of the, “I don’t remember this at all, but if…” line as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Joey basically Weinsteined these women. He trapped them in a situation, groped them, got his dick out, whatever. He's admitting it too. If the victims can either sue him or get him on a criminal charge, I hope they do. This shit is inexcusable and it's beyond sociopathic that he thinks he can explain it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted July 19, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted July 19, 2020 Joey Ryan is 40 years old. Fucking bloke talks about sex like all his references is reading Loaded magazine and watched the 10 minute freeview. 40 year old for fucks sake. He's a cunt. Anyone who has to say "and to get an idea of what her character his here's ..." is a fucking shitbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_3165 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 16 hours ago, Your Fight Site said: I’m getting a bit fed up of the, “I don’t remember this at all, but if…” line as well. What do you expect them to outright admit it? Leaving enough so that if they get called legally they can claim they didn't deny it nor confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael_3165 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 15 hours ago, IANdrewDiceClay said: Joey Ryan is 40 years old. Fucking bloke talks about sex like all his references is reading Loaded magazine and watched the 10 minute freeview. 40 year old for fucks sake. He's a cunt. Anyone who has to say "and to get an idea of what her character his here's ..." is a fucking shitbag. He has prob been advised to discredit the victim. It's a shit thing to do but that's what all sexual assault legal cases are pinned on. Discredit the victim or witnesses. I for one think he comes off as a bag of shit. His gimmick doesn't help his case, it's sleazy and crude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted July 20, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted July 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Michael_3165 said: What do you expect them to outright admit it? It’s just exhausting how a lot of people accused of inappropriateness seems to develop amnesia yet still want to apologise for some event they conveniently don’t remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members chokeout Posted July 20, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Your Fight Site said: It’s just exhausting how a lot of people accused of inappropriateness seems to develop amnesia yet still want to apologise for some event they conveniently don’t remember. It's the predator version of the 'sorry if you felt that way' non apology. He video was basically a scumbag check list: Discredit Deny Mention how you are trying to be a better person Jesus reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) I notice that some relations of the accused think deleting a tweet equates to a retraction/discrediting... Doesn’t work that way! I stand 100% by my claims and am completely open to be questioned on it, I just didn’t want the aggro of it being out in the open and didn’t fancy waking up to threats on live-streams by ex-convicts. Edited July 21, 2020 by AVM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 The link in the tweet leads to a slightly more detailed version of the five pledges above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members FLips Posted August 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted August 3, 2020 I'm a little outside the loop but that seems like an utterly empty "please can you do this? thanks" than any sort of actual governed law or rulebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted August 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted August 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, FelatioLips said: I'm a little outside the loop but that seems like an utterly empty "please can you do this? thanks" than any sort of actual governed law or rulebook. Sort of how unionising works across the board, though; they want people to buy in, join the union, and have support if they refuse to work for promotions who don't follow those rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members IANdrewDiceClay Posted August 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted August 3, 2020 Those 5 pledges are so simple, its amazing this industry arent following them. Its stuff like "wash your hands after you've wiped your arse" stuff. Hope this means loads of the shit ones disappear for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snitsky's back acne Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Minor thing in the grand scheme of things but I wonder if this will negate certain venues being run in future? I mean, as a long time attendee of British wrestling shows, I doubt some venues have even one secure dressing room space let alone a separate one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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