Paid Members Surf Digby Posted June 29, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, forlan said: Within the video he states he has been in relationships with people in the company.. that is what i was referring to.. the actual relationship was after he trained her Ah right. So when you said that he cheated on his wife with a trainee, you actually meant that he cheated on his wife with someone that wasn't a trainee. Yeah, silly me for getting that wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, forlan said: Also it is worth noting by speaking the way you are about quack evenĀ though he speaks that way due to essentially a disability (also many believe he us at least partly autistic which explains some of his behaviour) shows you as being just as bad because you are being ableist and judging someone based on their disability Just as bad? But I thought he didn't do anything wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlan Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, DavidB6937 said: Just as bad? But I thought he didn't do anything wrong? Just as bad as the alleged accusationsĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlan Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 There are a lot of double standards around too. Lince dorado speaking against quack yet doing guest trainer spots at team vision dojo ran by chasyn rance who has done much worse things things and been convicted for them with underage girls.Ā Ā Same goes for aew and their association with that dojo ran by rance.. more people need to soeak up about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Lion_of_the_Midlands Posted June 29, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2020 25 minutes ago, forlan said: also many believe he us at least partly autistic Whilst I cannot answer this quite as succinctly as Devon did can I say how incredibly insulting your use of possible undiagnosed autism is to the people here who have autistic family.Ā Now that is an ill advised video, however you wish to try and spin it. Also the semantics of she was a trainee but when he had a relationship with her she was no longer a trainee is bullshit. He trained her, he had a relationship with her.Ā 3 minutes ago, forlan said: There are a lot of double standards around too. Lince dorado speaking against quack yet doing guest trainer spots at team vision dojo ran by chasyn rance who has done much worse things things and been convicted for them with underage girls.Ā Ā Same goes for aew and their association with that dojo ran by rance.. more people need to soeak up about him Stop trying to deflect from Quack because you are talking bullshit and need to change the subject. Now isn't the time for whataboutism.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironic Indie Lad Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 Baby youve got it all wrong. I've not been shagging a trainee behind your back...I've been shagging a student! Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted June 29, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2020 This forumĀ is not a free PR service to rehabilitate people. Fuck off, Forlan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forlan Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Lion_of_the_Midlands said: Whilst I cannot answer this quite as succinctly as Devon did can I say how incredibly insulting your use of possible undiagnosed autism is to the people here who have autistic family.Ā Now that is an ill advised video, however you wish to try and spin it. Also the semantics of she was a trainee but when he had a relationship with her she was no longer a trainee is bullshit. He trained her, he had a relationship with her.Ā Stop trying to deflect from Quack because you are talking bullshit and need to change the subject. Now isn't the time for whataboutism.Ā So its deflecting from quack and not relevant that with all the scumbags around people are still letting a convicted pedophile run a dojo? Odd thoughts there like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted June 29, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, forlan said: So its deflecting from quack and not relevant that with all the scumbags around people are still letting a convicted pedophile run a dojo? Odd thoughts there like I think you've made your point. You've got some nerve accusing people of ableism when you yourself in the very same post pulled out the classic 'maybe they're autistic!' defence. Maybe you should just go back to another 13 year posting sabbatical and stop derailing this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Chest Rockwell Posted June 29, 2020 Moderators Share Posted June 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, forlan said: So its deflecting from quack and not relevant that with all the scumbags around people are still letting a convicted pedophile run a dojo? Odd thoughts there like Are the people in this thread responsible for letting paedophiles run a dojo? No. So it's irrelevant. I'm not convinced you really know how to put two thoughts together, and you don't seem to understand what he did wrong, so I assume you probably work in the industry based on the other responses we've seen to the allegations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Lion_of_the_Midlands Posted June 29, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2020 1 minute ago, forlan said: So its deflecting from quack and not relevant that with all the scumbags around people are still letting a convicted pedophile run a dojo? Odd thoughts there like This thread has covered a wide range of the assorted nonces, scumbags, and rapists that have been outed. You are the only person in this thread who posts on here for the first time in over 10 years to defend one of the scumbags. You are the only person who when called on their specious defense then tries to "Whatabout" their way out of it because they are clearly talking bollocks. The best thing you could do is stop trying to defend anyone.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted June 29, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2020 2 hours ago, forlan said: if Mike had just released a statement not properly addressing everything the way he could on the video he would get shit on anyway.. Itās almost as if it would have been better not to say anything. AdviceĀ you could probably do with heeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Surf Digby Posted June 29, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, forlan said: There are a lot of double standards around too. Lince dorado speaking against quack yet doing guest trainer spots at team vision dojo ran by chasyn rance who has done much worse things things and been convicted for them with underage girls.Ā Ā Same goes for aew and their association with that dojo ran by rance.. more people need to soeak up about him I've no idea who Rance is, or what he's done. However, you seem very aware, and instead of using this opportunity to speak up against him, you're defending Quack. Double standards indeed. Edited June 29, 2020 by Nostalgia Nonce Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 I'm starting to miss the tax discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVM Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 (edited) Whataboutery doesn't work on this. Each case demands accountability.Ā Anyone referring to a hierarchy of sexual assault and bullying is missing the point on the #speakingoutĀ movement - its about eliminating the toxicity within its cultureĀ and aligning wrestling into the standards of the outside world, whilst resolving each case on its own merits.Ā I'm a little bit surprised that this needs explaining, but nothing shocks me anymore. Edited June 29, 2020 by AVM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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