Paid Members LaGoosh Posted January 19, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2021 6 hours ago, Jacko said: See they are doing a birthday party for Brodie jr this week on dynamite, I’m sure it’s with the best intention but when does it become to much and almost exploitive It becomes exploitative when they start profiting from it which they aren't doing. All they're doing at the moment is throwing a special birthday party for a poor lad whose Dad has just died and supporting his family. Is that too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 When the next Casino Royale is to become his new Dad. Honestly tho, the whole way they have given small parts of shows for a boy who’s dads been gone less than a month , and given the truly exploitive stories we heard last year, happy fucking birthday -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Supremo Posted January 19, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2021 I can understand the worry. It’s the pro-wrestling business. People are right to be super cynical and usually assume the worst of everyone involved. This feels different though, at least for now. Everything they’ve done for Brodie’s family feels completely authentic and heartfelt. Just normal, decent people doing what they can to keep a grieving family busy and happy. It might tip over and turn into something else, but for now? Give that kid a kendo stick and let him smash shit out of everyone. Happy birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members FLips Posted January 19, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2021 Yeah they've not quite went "too far" with it yet to feel tacky, but as Supremo said the business is what it is and you do worry. My main awfully cynical worry is when this eventually starts fading away and AEW aren't doing huge things for him anymore, I hope he doesn't take it personally because everyone else has to get on with their lives and he's left in a shit position of going from 100 to 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, FelatioLips said: Yeah they've not quite went "too far" with it yet to feel tacky, but as Supremo said the business is what it is and you do worry. My main awfully cynical worry is when this eventually starts fading away and AEW aren't doing huge things for him anymore, I hope he doesn't take it personally because everyone else has to get on with their lives and he's left in a shit position of going from 100 to 0. That had crossed my mind, but it does seem like they're a thoroughly decent bunch of people who would go to the effort of keeping in touch and checking in, and I'm sure they'll still keep going to shows etc. At this point in time, Tony doesn't seem like the kinda guy to just check out completely. Plus it's clear that a lot of Brodie's friends hung out with him and kept in touch with him over the years, and I'm pretty sure they won't just give up on his family. It might not be 100 but I get the feeling they'll make damn sure it's not 0 either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted January 19, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2021 11 hours ago, IANdrewDiceClay said: That's why I believe Heyman was responsible for them leaving. There's no way Vince actually willingly paid them $750k a year surely? That had to be a Triple H deal, because he likes them. And Heyman just went "have you fucking seem how much these guys are on?" and Vince went "well they're gone then." I'm convinced that they signed Gallows & Anderson - and to a lesser extent AJ Styles and Shinsuke Nakamura - as an attempt to undermine NJPW's momentum and western expansion. I don't think they particularly saw AJ or Shinsuke as top stars, but AJ over-delivered in terms of adapting to "WWE style", and given how much they presumably pay him, was worth getting behind him as a top guy to get a return on their investment. Gallows & Anderson, though, was all about trying to undercut Bullet Club T-shirt sales. Not necessarily even to get in on that action themselves, just to try and remove the biggest Western money-maker NJPW had. Which makes it particularly amusing that the loss of Gallows, Anderson and Styles led pretty much directly to the rise of Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks, and therefore to the creation of AEW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackpot Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 They'll probably have the Brodie Lee Memorial Tournament or something along those lines and have his kid hand over the trophy each year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted January 19, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2021 I'd be happy with that. Based on their track record so far, I don't really see anything they're doing with Brodie Jr. as exploitative, and can't see it really going that way. What I worry more about is shithead fans moaning about him taking up TV time and turning on him, and bullying a kid on Twitter for being on their wrestling show, particularly if he gets booked in an angle and someone like Jim Cornette shits on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) He won't be in anymore angles after this, its just the timing of it all isn't it. But wrestling fans are fucking weird, we all are. They'll be a minority out there whinging that we got a kid whose Dad just died being assisted through the grieving process over having a Hikaru Shida squash or something. Just the nature of it. The subconscious wrestling fucks up EVERYTHING goodwill thought.  Edited January 19, 2021 by Chili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted January 19, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2021 58 minutes ago, BomberPat said: I'm convinced that they signed Gallows & Anderson - and to a lesser extent AJ Styles and Shinsuke Nakamura - as an attempt to undermine NJPW's momentum and western expansion. I don't think they particularly saw AJ or Shinsuke as top stars, but AJ over-delivered in terms of adapting to "WWE style", and given how much they presumably pay him, was worth getting behind him as a top guy to get a return on their investment. Gallows & Anderson, though, was all about trying to undercut Bullet Club T-shirt sales. Not necessarily even to get in on that action themselves, just to try and remove the biggest Western money-maker NJPW had. Which makes it particularly amusing that the loss of Gallows, Anderson and Styles led pretty much directly to the rise of Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks, and therefore to the creation of AEW. I agree. It's just what WWE does. It's the exact same reason why as soon as the UK scene really started hotting up they moved in, gutted all the top companies of all the best talent and started their own shitarse UK company that makes no money. They want to be the only game in town no matter what and will happily lose money to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted January 19, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2021 On 1/16/2021 at 11:18 PM, FelatioLips said: The Good Brothers are like a team of Christian and Matt Hardy. They both feel like the worst person in their team, it just happens to be the same team. Stick Billy Gunn in there for a triumverate of links so weak they should be managed by Ann Robinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members FLips Posted January 19, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, jazzygeofferz said: Stick Billy Gunn in there for a triumverate of links so weak they should be managed by Ann Robinson. I always preferred Billy Gunn to Road Dogg! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted January 19, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, FelatioLips said: I always preferred Billy Gunn to Road Dogg! I've got a t-shirt which contractually obliges me to state that Road Dogg was the talent of that team. He was the one with the closest thing to charisma that managed to get them over with the fans. They were both absolute dog dirt in the ring, but imagine how much worse they'd have been if Billy had been the hype man and the D O Double G had to be the worker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Carbomb Posted January 19, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2021 15 minutes ago, jazzygeofferz said: I've got a t-shirt which contractually obliges me to state that Road Dogg was the talent of that team. He was the one with the closest thing to charisma that managed to get them over with the fans. They were both absolute dog dirt in the ring, but imagine how much worse they'd have been if Billy had been the hype man and the D O Double G had to be the worker. Road Dogg had ridiculous charisma, though. And I dispute that they were no good in the ring - I think Dogg was actually quite decent, able to make a lot out of a little, and both were talented tag-team wrestlers. For me, Billy Gunn is one of the best tag-team wrestlers ever, because he's remembered for at least three teams that did well and got over. In a way, it's sort of a shame he never got to tag with HBK in DX, or do a run with Ricky Morton at some point (fuck knows when that could've ever happened though), because with either one of those two as the ultimate blue-eye-in-peril specialist, and him as one of the best hot-taggers ever, they would have made for some legendary tag matches, I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted January 19, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted January 19, 2021 I just wonder whether they looked better because of a dearth of other talented teams at the time they were active. They were pretty much done and dusted by the time Edge & Christian, the Dudleys and the Hardy Boyz really got their time. It could have been a different story had they made it into that era. I can't see them being able to keep up during a TLC match. I remember the story of the match being good, but don't remember them being particularly great "wrestlers" if that makes sense? I don't recall them faring as well as the James Gang/ (number)Live Kru or VKM in TNA with the other teams there. Age and piss poor booking could be a part of it, but I just don't have many great memories of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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