DavidB6937 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 29 minutes ago, Whistling Skull said: Hulk Hogan is not a racist, as far as i'm concerned. He has said racist things when he was at the lowest part of his adult life. Dude was real low. If people that actually know him and were personally hurt by him can forgive him, so can i. There's a lot that can be argued in that post. 1) If he said racist things, why isn't he a racist? 2) Just because someone's hurt or not hurt by something, does that justify being racist? 3) Does being low justify being racist? 4) Would you need to forgive him if he wasn't racist? I know these things are up for debate and people see them in different lights etc, but it's very easy to excuse the behaviour for this reason or that reason. I'm not saying he can't learn and be better, but that's all about acknowledging there's an issue in the first place rather than trying to justify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Blog Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 33 minutes ago, Whistling Skull said: Hulk Hogan is a racist as far as i'm concerned. He has said racist things. people that actually know him and were personally hurt by him. Fixed that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted June 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2020 It's a bloody treasure trove. Mongo's selling is incredible. Just the best worst ever. But this is a genius spot. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted June 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2020 There should be a Twitter of Dusty-isms from WCW commentary as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted June 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just WCW-isms. On a Thunder in 1998, Lee Marshall claimed Ray Traylor was "a founder member of the nWo". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pogue Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, tiger_rick said: Just WCW-isms. On a Thunder in 1998, Lee Marshall claimed Ray Traylor was "a founder member of the nWo". Must've whispered the idea in Hogan's ear while he was being suplexed off the top of the cage for that to be true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted June 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, tiger_rick said: Just WCW-isms. On a Thunder in 1998, Lee Marshall claimed Ray Traylor was "a founder member of the nWo". Iâm part-way through 1997 WCW and Lee Marshall keeps popping up on Nitro with his road reports, constantly saying how heâs having a âgreat timeâ at âNitro partiesâ⌠with no noise in the background đ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted June 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, tiger_rick said: It's a bloody treasure trove. Mongo's selling is incredible. Just the best worst ever. But this is a genius spot.  Actually, its an interesting twist on the usual "stand there like a twat and be smacked over the head." At least he tried to protect himself I suppose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted June 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, Your Fight Site said: Iâm part-way through 1997 WCW and Lee Marshall keeps popping up on Nitro with his road reports, constantly saying how heâs having a âgreat timeâ at âNitro partiesâ⌠with no noise in the background đ I was watching an old Clash of The Champions with my girlfriend, who's never really watched much WCW, and when Lee Marshall's Road Report came on, she asked if Lee Marshall was actually in the location he said he was. It dawned on me that I'd never even thought about it, and had just always 100% assumed that they were a shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted June 3, 2020 Author Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Whistling Skull said: Hulk Hogan is not a racist, as far as i'm concerned. He has said racist things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Your Fight Site Posted June 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, BomberPat said: I was watching an old Clash of The Champions with my girlfriend, who's never really watched much WCW, and when Lee Marshall's Road Report came on, she asked if Lee Marshall was actually in the location he said he was. It dawned on me that I'd never even thought about it, and had just always 100% assumed that they were a shoot. Yeah. I came to the conclusion heâs just calling in on a brick mobile backstage đ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted June 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2020 I never thought that Lee Marshall would be my personal last bastion of kayfabe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted June 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2020 This needs it's own thread ( @Chest Rockwell ). Every one of them has me howling. đ Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Tommy! Posted June 3, 2020 Paid Members Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, BomberPat said: I never thought that Lee Marshall would be my personal last bastion of kayfabe. I liked Lee Marshall, he's grrrreat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistling Skull Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, DavidB6937 said: There's a lot that can be argued in that post. 1) If he said racist things, why isn't he a racist? 2) Just because someone's hurt or not hurt by something, does that justify being racist? 3) Does being low justify being racist? 4) Would you need to forgive him if he wasn't racist? I know these things are up for debate and people see them in different lights etc, but it's very easy to excuse the behaviour for this reason or that reason. I'm not saying he can't learn and be better, but that's all about acknowledging there's an issue in the first place rather than trying to justify it.  Ok..lemme give it a shot. 1) blurting out dumb racist things when you're feeling insecure doesn't immediatly make you a racist person. It makes you an insecure little bitch. Insecurity and frustration can cause people to compromise their own beliefs. Has to do with a lack of self respect, i think. Still a dick move, though. 2) Hurting people means you have to make it right. No matter what you did. He's a human being and hasn't done it again as far as i know). He has apologized to the people he hurt most with this: his friends, family and co-workers. Next to this, having been quoted or recorded saying something racist, doesn't mean you're a racist at heart. If there were a bunch of other accounts of him being racist, this would be different. Leading into him being at his lowest point.  3) Racist people have a lot more stuff going wrong in their lives, other than being racist. Hulk was in a really low place that he didn't see himself getting out of. He thought his entire life was slipping away. (4)If someone acts like an ass at their lowest point and then gets better, admits it and apologizes, i can forgive it. As long as they don't turn around and do the same thing all over again. All of this is predicated on him not doing that shit again. In comparisom, Trump will never even admit he's racist(when he's not around people who he knows are racist), he will never say sorry for being a racist and if he did, he'd be lying and he'd be back at it within 5 minutes.  Edited June 4, 2020 by Whistling Skull It's early still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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