theringmaster Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 10 hours ago, Yakashi said: He wasn't big when he got brought back. He was basically the same. The massive steroid body and scarred back all happened within the last 9 months or so. It's mental. I can't believe they have the nerve to put him on tv. Do you honestly think it would slip under WWE's radar if he was on roids? Do you honestly think they can't see a 'roid body' a mile away? He's pissing in a cup every 60-90 days the same as the rest of them, he's not on roids. This is 2017 not 1987. Quote
Paid Members WeeAl Posted May 23, 2017 Paid Members Posted May 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, theringmaster said: Do you honestly think it would slip under WWE's radar if he was on roids? Do you honestly think they can't see a 'roid body' a mile away? He's pissing in a cup every 60-90 days the same as the rest of them, he's not on roids. This is 2017 not 1987. It's got nothing to do with what you can see, and everything to do with what you can prove. They can't sack somebody in this day and age based only on looking like they are on the gas. Quote
Yakashi Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 1 hour ago, theringmaster said: Do you honestly think it would slip under WWE's radar if he was on roids? Do you honestly think they can't see a 'roid body' a mile away? He's pissing in a cup every 60-90 days the same as the rest of them, he's not on roids. This is 2017 not 1987. You cannot be this naive. Quote
theringmaster Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Yakashi said: You cannot be this naive. After the Benoit incident WWE wouldn't risk it, Roids are gone from the E in this day and age. Quote
Liam O'Rourke Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 1 minute ago, theringmaster said: After the Benoit incident WWE wouldn't risk it, Roids are gone from the E in this day and age. Oh boy. Quote
Yakashi Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 30 minutes ago, theringmaster said: After the Benoit incident WWE wouldn't risk it, Roids are gone from the E in this day and age. Ok. Do you want to buy some magic beans? Quote
Ambulance Chaser Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 2 hours ago, theringmaster said: Do you honestly think it would slip under WWE's radar if he was on roids? Do you honestly think they can't see a 'roid body' a mile away? He's pissing in a cup every 60-90 days the same as the rest of them, he's not on roids. This is 2017 not 1987. Just like nobody wrestles with concussions anymore eh. You see Balor when Mahal knocked him clean out, he was out on his feet, his eyes rolled back and he faceplanted the mat, not a chance he should have been in the ring for weeks and didn't he wrestle the following week. They probably did some two bob test like asked him to walk in a straight line and count to 10 and went "yep, well he passed our tests he is good to go". In every walk of life there are tests, and ways of beating said tests. Quote
Paid Members LaGoosh Posted May 23, 2017 Paid Members Posted May 23, 2017 Fashion Police vs The Usos was fantastic. In a weekend that had Dunne/Bate and that ladder match, I'd say it was actually the match I enjoyed the most. Just bloody good fun. Quote
Paid Members Au Posted May 23, 2017 Paid Members Posted May 23, 2017 (edited) Popular theory is that Jinder's on TRT so getting around failing tests with a therapeutic use exemption. That's what the real men in UFC do too, so I'm sure it only helps to bolster scotswizards opinion. I'm someone who tuned out of WWE TV when JBL got his push and never tuned back in. Couldn't stand the guy. But I don't really give a fuck that Jinder's just won it. I think that speaks volumes about how much I care about wrestling these days (or maybe I'm just more aware there's things more important to care about than wrestling booking). I thought him and Randy had a decent main event match as well, to be honest. I would say that Jinder winning the title just because they're trying to expand into India makes wrestling look even more fake than it already does, though. Edited May 23, 2017 by Au Quote
Paid Members JNLister Posted May 23, 2017 Paid Members Posted May 23, 2017 The worst thing is we get the tiresome folk doing the tiresome line of "You say you want new guys to get a push and then you complain", which is great except Jinder isn't a new guy and he didn't get a push. Quote
Paid Members ColinBollocks Posted May 23, 2017 Paid Members Posted May 23, 2017 Indeed. The whole thing is just too transparent and forced that it's impossible not to find it a bit ludicrous. Quote
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted May 23, 2017 Author Paid Members Posted May 23, 2017 What makes me chuckle is the unanimous "What the fuck have they brought him back for?" when Mahal was rehired. Now he's World Champion and some defend it. Don't get me wrong, if he'd shown anything in the meantime or they'd even cleverly worked with his limitations, I'd say good luck to the bloke. But he's literally the same dumpling as ever - but with muscles. Quote
Sphinx Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 Maybe I just don't care enough about the product any more. When he won the number 1 contendership, I laughed a little and that was it. It didn't really fuss me. When he won the title I weren't surprised. Quote
textonly Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 It's really not that bad, though, is it? I feel like hardcore, lifelong wrestling fans get much too hung up on what's happened in the past. Everything's so changeable in wrestling. Does it really matter that Jinder was a jobber two months ago? I mean, I agree that as an individual talent there's not a lot there, but that has been true of many champions. What's important in those instances is that they're well booked and well protected. So far I'd say WWE have done a good job there. And I'd argue that the Orton/Jinder match was definitely a step up on either of the Orton/Wyatt matches and the feud building into it was solid enough too. The only really jarring/nonsensical part of it, for me, is the fact that they're doing that thing where the top talents are fighting over the lesser belt while the midcard guys fight over the top title. That makes no sense and requires a ridiculous logic jump anytime someone mentions it on TV. But Jinder on his own? I can take what they're doing at face value. He'll probably be found out soon enough, but for now, on its own merits, I really don't think it's been too bad. Other matches: I think Breezango vs. the Usos is probably in my top five matches I've seen this year. It was so silly, so fun; such a perfect way to follow up the great drama and technical prowess on display at NXT Takeover. The crowd were super into it too. AJ/Owens was good but not quite what I'd hoped for. Fine with the finish though. Everything else was pretty mediocre, I thought. Nakamura/Ziggler, Zayn/Corbyn, Harper/Rowan and the women's match passed by without much note. The only thing that pops to mind is that Sami really sold that back injury fantastically. I've never been mad on him because I never saw him on the indies and I only saw a match or two in NXT, but there I got a quick glimpse of why he's such a beloved babyface. Quote
Ambulance Chaser Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 With Jinder, I honestly can overlook the fact he's been a jobber for years and it's all sudden, and the reasons are contrived. I want a change, I can't stand Orton. My issue is he is bloody rubbish, like at all aspects of the game. Quote
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