Kfogg1991 Posted February 12, 2025 Posted February 12, 2025 I came to put the same thing I seriously feel sick. This isn't including the Grant case is it please God say it's not. The most shocking part was they ruled to dismiss late last week and it's just been reported it's so sickening it's allowed to be if your rich and besties with the president Quote
TheScarlettChad Posted February 12, 2025 Posted February 12, 2025 19 minutes ago, Kfogg1991 said: I came to put the same thing I seriously feel sick. This isn't including the Grant case is it please God say it's not. The most shocking part was they ruled to dismiss late last week and it's just been reported it's so sickening it's allowed to be if your rich and besties with the president You can always look it up to see if it is part of the grant case. Quote
Paid Members BomberPat Posted February 12, 2025 Paid Members Posted February 12, 2025 Janel Grant's civil case against Vince is still ongoing, this is specifically in relation to some federal charges around NDAs and misuse of funds. The federal appeals court has also revealed that Vince's lawyer had wrongly withheld relevant documents, so they will now have to be turned over. So it's not as done and dusted as the headline makes it sound. Quote
TheScarlettChad Posted February 12, 2025 Posted February 12, 2025 And being mates with the president has no baring. Otherwise he'd have been pardoned. But I don't know if he can be anyway correct me if I'm wrong. Quote
SaitoRyo Posted February 12, 2025 Posted February 12, 2025 34 minutes ago, BomberPat said: Janel Grant's civil case against Vince is still ongoing, this is specifically in relation to some federal charges around NDAs and misuse of funds. The federal appeals court has also revealed that Vince's lawyer had wrongly withheld relevant documents, so they will now have to be turned over. So it's not as done and dusted as the headline makes it sound. Bingo. This is Vince's team putting out some 'positive' PR for him as the Grant suit is still ongoing (they recently resubmitted an amended version of it), as is the ring boy lawsuit (which recently added more plaintiffs). Also, the lawyer in question that withheld documents was, I believe, revealed to be the now retired Jerry McDevitt. Quote
DavidB6937 Posted February 12, 2025 Posted February 12, 2025 With Trump back in power, is there really any chance of anything happening to Vince anyway? I can imagine him trying to intervene somehow because he's a twat. Quote
TheScarlettChad Posted February 12, 2025 Posted February 12, 2025 22 minutes ago, DavidB6937 said: With Trump back in power, is there really any chance of anything happening to Vince anyway? I can imagine him trying to intervene somehow because he's a twat. But can he? Is that something Trump has the power to do? Quote
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted February 12, 2025 Paid Members Posted February 12, 2025 It's a civil case. There's not going to be a conviction that can be pardoned. Vince isn't going to jail, unless convincing evidence leads to criminal charges, but he will suffer financially and reputational damage if Janel Grant wins. What that's worth in America at the moment is anyone's guess. With the madness of the situation over there currently, I imagine it'd be damage enough that no TV company or corporation would touch him with a bargepole but the President of the United States would give him a role in government. Quote
DavidB6937 Posted February 12, 2025 Posted February 12, 2025 Yeah I don't massively understand their law system which is why I was wondering. It's even more broken than ours any time I read about it. The reputation stuff often seems to pass with time, or more than enough people just don't care. Quote
Paid Members Carbomb Posted February 12, 2025 Paid Members Posted February 12, 2025 7 minutes ago, tiger_rick said: It's a civil case. There's not going to be a conviction that can be pardoned. Vince isn't going to jail, unless convincing evidence leads to criminal charges, but he will suffer financially and reputational damage if Janel Grant wins. What that's worth in America at the moment is anyone's guess. With the madness of the situation over there currently, I imagine it'd be damage enough that no TV company or corporation would touch him with a bargepole but the President of the United States would give him a role in government. Right now, in a very odd and depressing way, it might be worth more than a federal conviction, because the consequences can't be negated. It brings the issue away from the governmental sphere and into the realm of public reaction, which might be the only way these days to give these fuckers their comeuppances. Quote
Mr_Danger Posted February 12, 2025 Posted February 12, 2025 3 hours ago, Kfogg1991 said: I came to put the same thing I seriously feel sick. This isn't including the Grant case is it please God say it's not. The most shocking part was they ruled to dismiss late last week and it's just been reported it's so sickening it's allowed to be if your rich and besties with the president You could just read the very short article instead of react to the headline. Quote
Paid Members air_raid Posted February 14, 2025 Paid Members Posted February 14, 2025 On 2/12/2025 at 4:28 PM, DavidB6937 said: Yeah I don't massively understand their law system which is why I was wondering. It's even more broken than ours any time I read about it. It absolutely is a shitshow. The existence of the possibility of pleading "no contest" instead of being forced to plead "guilty" is the biggest example for me. Apologies if anyone posted this already but a civil case knackers Vince because while in a criminal case in the States the burden of proving guilt is "beyond reasonable doubt", in a civil case it drops to "more likely true than not true." So he'd be fucked. Quote
Paid Members DCW Posted February 14, 2025 Paid Members Posted February 14, 2025 Would be same as that scumbag Conor McGregor's recent civil conviction for sexual assault. The director of public prosecutions here didn't reckon there was enough evidence to go ahead with a criminal prosecution as the threshold is beyond reasonable doubt, so victim sued him in civil courts where burden of proof is lower and she thankfully won. No jail in civil courts unfortunately, just compensation. Quote
SaitoRyo Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 'Wrestling promoter'? He must be seething. Quote
The Gaffer Posted March 18, 2025 Posted March 18, 2025 That's fantastic. The most concise put down imaginable that's entirely factual. Hope it gets adopted as standard copy. Quote
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