Paid Members GlennCullen Posted June 22, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted June 22, 2021 Glad to be through the groups, but fuck me England need to start taking shots to make defences respect it. Better teams will load up the box for the constant crosses and it’ll get nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted June 22, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted June 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, westlondonmist said: I think it is, very negative tactics. Not making subs to try and attack to win games. Starting line ups have been fairly negative too, especially against the Czechs. Are you sure you're not talking about England? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members stumobir Posted June 22, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) We were out at the groups as soon as that team was announced against Czech. Our tactics for all three games were to get the ball to Tierney or Robertson and hoof it up to Dykes, far too predictable and didn’t once look like it was going to bear fruit. Still, positive signs are there in terms of development. Would’ve been good to see Turnbull and Patterson get a chance. O’Donnell played well against England but he’s nowhere near good enough to play the wingback role opposite Robertson. Edited June 22, 2021 by stumobir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 16 hours ago, westlondonmist said: That was pathetic. Armstrong is dreadful, Turnbull or Fraser should have started above him and he stayed on for 70 minutes despite being gash. McKenna ahead of Cooper, Jesus. What's with the boner for Dykes, he's half rate? Clarke played for a draw in all 3 matches, even when a win was needed. Qualifying through penalty shoot outs against Serbia and Israel really covers up the the pish you see. The very fact that Dykes has been the main striker for us hints at where the problem lies. We don't have someone who can stick the ball in the net. 19 shots against the Czechs opposed to their 10. 11 shots against England opposed to their 9. 11 shots against Croatia, which they matched. Our problem is up front. The rest of the team, when most are fit and available, is perfectly fine. The difference we'd have seen had a match-fit Leigh Griffiths been available, for example, would have been interesting. The only criticism I could level at Clarke, and I said this to my old man before a ball was kicked, is that I'd have taken Griffiths and/or Shankland, even if it was to stick them on as a sub after 70 minutes or so. But all this chatter about Armstrong playing instead of Turnbull, or McKenna playing ahead of Cooper is nonsense. If you think playing Fraser and Cooper would have changed that game then you're mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Devon Malcolm Posted June 23, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted June 23, 2021 58 minutes ago, David said: 19 shots against the Czechs opposed to their 10. 11 shots against England opposed to their 9. 11 shots against Croatia, which they matched. Our problem is up front. The rest of the team, when most are fit and available, is perfectly fine. Another reason why I'm baffled by accusations of 'negative tactics'. Normally I avoid watching Scotland like the plague, they're almost as bad as fucking Sweden, but I watched all three of their games this time round and largely enjoyed them all. It's a far cry from when they used to play nobody up front. A bit like England are doing now, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Devon Malcolm said: Another reason why I'm baffled by accusations of 'negative tactics'. Normally I avoid watching Scotland like the plague, they're almost as bad as fucking Sweden, but I watched all three of their games this time round and largely enjoyed them all. It's a far cry from when they used to play nobody up front. A bit like England are doing now, actually. The negative tactics chat is mostly down to frustration I think. Fans are upset that we finally qualified then proceeded to blow it. But the facts are there for all to see. This wasn't a negative, defensive Scotland side. We played two games with what some would consider two actual forwards in the starting lineup, in an era when a lot of teams play with one. It was the quality of those forwards that was the main problem, not the tactics or approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Impact Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Christ, some good final game drama in group E, and one England fans should follow closely as the quarter final berth looks very winnable now, if we can get past the last 16. It will require England to put in their one "performance" a tournament to get there, and maybe we can at least say we aren't burnt out or have played every card yet. I'm blindly optimistic of course, but I prefer it to being pessimistic and going "I told you so" after each exit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted June 23, 2021 Author Paid Members Share Posted June 23, 2021 Dubravka with one of the most spectacular own goals I've ever seen. Outstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Jazzy G Posted June 23, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted June 23, 2021 We did so much better than I expected us to ever do in that group, and that was a heck of a match but at the end of the day we just didn't have the stamina to hang against three of the best teams in the world. Some of those second round matches are looking really tasty. Portugal Vs Belgium, anybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members SpiritOfTheForest Posted June 23, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) Well done to Hungary. I think most people expected that they wouldn't get a single point from this group but in the end France and Germany couldn't beat them and it was only thanks to a late flurry from Portugal (and a somewhat deceiving scoreline) that they didn't remain unbeaten. They were going through tonight until the 84th minute or so and gave the Germans quite the scare. Their matches in Budapest also provided a cracking atmosphere. They might be out but their heads should be held high. Some performance that! Edited June 23, 2021 by SpiritOfTheForest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Whilst wondering why Neuer didn't "Schumacher" the striker when he was through on goal, came across this belter from his Wiki page. England vs Germany. Sure this normal country will treat that completely normally leading up to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members PunkStep Posted June 23, 2021 Author Paid Members Share Posted June 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, SuperBacon said: England vs Germany. Sure this normal country will treat that completely normally leading up to it. Oh boy, here we go 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted June 23, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) Surely the clue's in the name? 'World' Wars?.... Edited June 23, 2021 by garynysmon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members tiger_rick Posted June 23, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted June 23, 2021 Germany is a hell of a game this early in the knockouts but if England can get through, that half of the draw is looking more appealing. The "top" half has Belgium, Italy, France, Portugal and Spain. Our half is: Sweden/Ukraine v England/Germany Holland/Czech Rep v Wales/Denmark Absolutely wide open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Houchen Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 “TWO WORLD WARS AND ONE WORLD…….:OH MY GOD THEY ARE TAKING THE KNEE. POLITICS HAS NO PLACE IN FOOTBALL”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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