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7 hours ago, DavidB6937 said:

And yet if it was that easy, surely TNA/Impact would be doing far better?

No promotion has done as much to destroy goodwill as those guys. They’d have to put out a good show consistently for years to undo the damage they have done 

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Seen a ton of stuff online that Michael Cole may be taken off Raw in place of Vic Joseph and moved over to SmackDown for the Fox move. 

Potentially him and Graves though I couldn't see anything about a third person. 

Would be good to try and bring some of the new commentary team through and Joseph isn't so bad. 

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No-one was a bigger fan of KofiMania than me. But boy do I want Brock Lesnar to end what's been a pretty terrible reign. What's the one thing better than Brock Lesnar? Bearded Brock Lesnar!

Then, with any luck, they can finally pull the trigger and start making Big E the star he's always been destined to be.

Funny how things work out though. Imagine back when they did that Beast in the East Network special, where Brock squashed Kofi, and thinking, "This match will one day be the main event of WWE's first show on FOX, it'll be for the WWE Title...and Brock Lesnar will be the challenger."

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Whilst I think it's going to be a swerve and Daniel Bryan's still going to be revealed as the mastermind behind it all, I still wouldn't mind seeing him do a teased return to being a babyface. I'll never ever get over how they managed to waste him once he came back from retirement. Give it a few weeks of him teaming with Roman before turning on him on the first Smackdown on FOX.

I smiled at them officially announcing the end of the Wild Card Rule. As if it's been enforced in any way whatsoever. How long did the restricted amount of people per week last? A week? Two? Plus, as if, Vince. I predict six months before the rosters start merging again. It's one of those things that he can't help himself but do.

It's a shame they're continuing the Kevin Owens vs. Shane McMahon feud. I had hoped Kevin would just jump the rail, beat some security up and then write, "N...X...T," in the air like Bret leaving for WCW.

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I'd much rather Owens went to help NXT than continue this deathly Shane feud. It's killing him worse every week. A fucking lawsuit? What a snidey chump.

It's gonna be Brock vs. Roman at Wrestlemania again, isn't it?

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1 hour ago, Supremo said:

I'll never ever get over how they managed to waste him once he came back from retirement.

Bryan has already been to the top of the mountain, he just wanted to get back in the ring. I think he would have been just as happy doing dark matches as he would getting a big push at that stage. Plus they probably weren’t sure if he could still go, they had to ease him in really.

Imagine if they had put him straight into difficult matches and ring rust had caused him to get another concussion? 

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Just had a look at the results. The show only had 4 matches over 2 hours including  a decent sounding 6 man and Sasha vs Charlotte. With some many wrestlers on the books right now those matches could be saved for the bigger shows and let some others get some TV time surely. They must have been lengthy matches too. 

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57 minutes ago, simonworden said:

Just had a look at the results. The show only had 4 matches over 2 hours including  a decent sounding 6 man and Sasha vs Charlotte. With some many wrestlers on the books right now those matches could be saved for the bigger shows and let some others get some TV time surely. They must have been lengthy matches too. 

So you're complaining about a show just by reading the results?

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1 hour ago, UK Kat Von D said:

Bryan has already been to the top of the mountain, he just wanted to get back in the ring. I think he would have been just as happy doing dark matches as he would getting a big push at that stage. Plus they probably weren’t sure if he could still go, they had to ease him in really.

Imagine if they had put him straight into difficult matches and ring rust had caused him to get another concussion? 

The very first bumps he took after being cleared were those crazy dropkicks were he lands on his head, then a Powerbomb on the apron. Then less than a few weeks later, he was booked to break the record for how long someone lasted in a Royal Rumble, getting the shit beaten out of him to the point where he looked like this.

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Their complete botching of his return had absolutely nothing to do with them, "easing him in," and was entirely down to their inability to capitalise on momentum or successfully book babyfaces. Much like Roman returning from cancer a year later, they had an incredible real-life story that should've been a doddle to make work but their wonky writing and weird, backwards aproach to storytelling left them with a worthless shell of what they once had. Imagine having that Daniel Bryan - Miz Talking Smack segment to build a feud out of and then somehow making it about their wives.

Nothing's really changed, either. They can't write heroes or babyfaces to save their lives. Look at Kevin Owens. Beaten, outsmarted and endlessly bullied by Shane McMahon and how does he fight back? With a lawsuit. This lot wouldn't know how to book The Rock or Stone Cold Steve Austin if they came around today.

 

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Those marks can be put to weaker conditioning as much as anything. The only thing that risked concussion was the drop kicks landing on his head, and since he quickly changed the way he lands off it I’d put that down to him being overzealous.

Ideally he should have gone straight for Miz, that was already built and he is a safe opponent. That could have perfectly eased him in while giving a big blow off. 

There is no excuse for not capitalising on Roman’s return though.

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1 hour ago, DavidB6937 said:

So you're complaining about a show just by reading the results?

Not complaining, just making a comment regarding the content. I never said it was a bad show. A more constructive reply would be to tell me if it was actually a good or bad show.

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The stip that if Owens wins the unfair dismissal case, he gets to fire Shane McMahon has got to be up there with the most ridiculous things they've ever written.

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1 hour ago, DavidB6937 said:

So you're complaining about a show just by reading the results?

He was questioning, not complaining. There's quite a significant difference between the two.

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I’m glad Kofi got a WWE title reign but now is definitely the time for him to drop it. Interesting to note this will be Brock’s first WWE TV match in over 15 years.

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I’d be up for them turning Bryan face fully giving him the Rumble win and having him and Brock again at Mania. Really hope they don’t go with Roman and Brock again. Been done to death. 

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9 hours ago, UK Kat Von D said:

Those marks can be put to weaker conditioning as much as anything. The only thing that risked concussion was the drop kicks landing on his head, and since he quickly changed the way he lands off it I’d put that down to him being overzealous.

Nah, those marks, “can be put,” to getting the shit smashed out of you for over seventy five minutes. If they were, “easing him in,” then the last thing they’d be doing is sending him out there for that long to take that type of punishment. Plus, if his safety was of paramount concern when he came back then his first feud wouldn’t have been with one of the least experienced guys on the roster in Big Cass, coming off an injury himself, would it?

It was entirely down to them not knowing  what they had, not being able to strike when the iron is hot and most importantly being such a bunch of backwards weirdos that they don’t even know what makes for a heroic babyface anymore. 

Also, if it was really about avoiding concussions then Bryan would be an isolated case, but he’s not. Even in just the last few years, the list of tragic, failed babyfaces is endless. To build to his eventual feud with Triple H, Seth Rollins turns babyface when all his heel mates bin him off. Roman Reigns, supposed top babyface, facing newly-turned heel Braun Strowman in a Hell In a Cell match to stop Roman’s mates from interfering. Charlotte being a supposed babyface against Becky Lynch despite the fact that she came in and stole her title shot from her best mate.

I mean, fucking hell. Just look at the current landscape. You’ve got Kevin Owens taking Shane to court for being mean to him,  Rey Mysterio being an old has-been who’s only hanging around to get his shit kid a job, Cendric Alexander losing every day to everyone, and fucking Seth No Mates, acting all spooked and scared, with this monstrosity on the market.

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Who could possibly root for these losers?

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