Just Some Guy Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Spoiler Yes, up to Die Another Day. Casino Royale reboots the series with a younger Bond who has just received his license to kill and does into its own little sub-series as James Bond is killed at the end of No Time To Die. Spoiler for the James Bond uninitiated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members johnnyboy Posted September 28, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted September 28, 2023 7 hours ago, SuperBacon said: We're forgetting Bond. What's that, 25, 26? Depending on if you count the original Casino Royale? Niven Royale and Never Say Never Again aren't part of the franchise. 6 minutes ago, Just Some Guy said: Â Reveal hidden contents Yes, up to Die Another Day. Casino Royale reboots the series with a younger Bond who has just received his license to kill and does into its own little sub-series as James Bond is killed at the end of No Time To Die. Spoiler for the James Bond uninitiated. Those films are part of the franchise though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Some Guy Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Loki said: Personally I'd draw the line at where the same story/character has had a new interpretation or film kicked off.  It has to really be the continuation of the same universe. That thins the herd out a lot but still leaves some enormous series.  The question is, does it invalidate Bond? I was kind of responding to the question about Bond using @Loki logic. Unless you accept the previous 20 Bond films are folded inside the 5 Craig films then it's not a continuation. And who knows what will happen for Bond 26! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mal the Glorious Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Dr. Alan Grant said: How were you watching them? I’d love to see all of the Japanese Godzillas, but they don’t seem to be on any streaming service. I had to resort toa bit of downloading. As far as I can tell they mostly available on physical media, but I don't own anything capable of playing any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mal the Glorious Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) Edit: is this a double post, or a reboot with new continuity? Edited September 28, 2023 by King Mal the Glorious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, Just Some Guy said: I was kind of responding to the question about Bond using @Loki logic. Unless you accept the previous 20 Bond films are folded inside the 5 Craig films then it's not a continuation. And who knows what will happen for Bond 26! Yeah, I agree with that.  Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan are meant to be the same version of the character, just recast and obviously some updates for modern times.  Craig's version is a total reboot, starts at the beginning and does a kinda origin story.  That's how it's always felt to me.  It's the same franchise from a business point of view, but it's not the same story/universe. @BomberPat - Nimoy plays AN old Spock, but it might as well not be the original Spock as it then completely rewrites all of Trek.  The normal Trek universe has continued on with no reference to those films. That's the impressive thing about some of the other long-running franchises - they are one long story told over many chapters any years.  The Marvel films might have got a bit rubbish recently but the way it all ties together it still very well done.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members johnnyboy Posted September 28, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Just Some Guy said: Unless you accept the previous 20 Bond films are folded inside the 5 Craig films then it's not a continuation. And who knows what will happen for Bond 26! Deliberately muddied by some characters being played by the same actor. Craig's films are all his life flashing before his eyes as Brosnan Bond died under the ice with Jinx in his arms. Mad rumours are Nolan for the next two as Fleming period pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Some Guy Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I'd love to know more about how far Tarantino got with his Casino Royale script. Or did he just have an airy-fairy idea about doing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted September 29, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted September 29, 2023 I was a bit disappointed that Craig's Bond did some origin story stuff, and not only because it makes the continuity weird that Judi Dench becomes M in Goldeneye, but was also already M at the start of Bond's career. I normally hate "fan theory" stuff, but I always liked the idea that James Bond isn't one person, but a codename assigned to whichever agent gets the designation 007, and the Daniel Craig movies make that unfeasible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 59 minutes ago, BomberPat said: I normally hate "fan theory" stuff, but I always liked the idea that James Bond isn't one person, but a codename assigned to whichever agent gets the designation 007, and the Daniel Craig movies make that unfeasible. Is that fan theory? I thought that was the actual story behind the 007 code? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted September 29, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted September 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, SuperBacon said: Is that fan theory? I thought that was the actual story behind the 007 code? the Daniel Craig movies delve enough into Bond's backstory to make it clear that James Bond is his real name, and No Time To Die features a different agent being given the 007 number. Obviously it was never the intention of Ian Fleming, but I always thought it was a good bit of retconning, rather than trying to pretend that Connery-to-Brosnan is one continuous character. I suppose the best explanation is that it's a Simpsons-esque floating timeline, where Bond is the same character, at roughly the same age, but his backstory and experiences are shunted forward in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBacon Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 13 minutes ago, BomberPat said: the Daniel Craig movies delve enough into Bond's backstory to make it clear that James Bond is his real name, and No Time To Die features a different agent being given the 007 number. I forgot pretty much everything about that film as I didn't think it was very good. So James Bond is his real name but the 007 code gets given to different agents. Roger (Moore) that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Chris B Posted September 29, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted September 29, 2023 I tend to think Skyfall makes more sense if you assume the first draft leant into the multiple-Bonds thing. The old boy, Kincaide, at the Bond home, was originally written for Sean Connery, and it would have been more ambiguous about who he actually was, outside of him being a retired 00-agent. Then you've got a former secret agent that M left for dead, before she got her new Bond. While this would have been a story that would have only worked for me, I think, imagine if that had been Brosnan. The former Bond, gone mad at his betrayal, taking out M and being taken out by the first and the most recent Bond. In the 'written specifically for me' version, that would have been so much fun. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members gmoney Posted October 9, 2023 Paid Members Share Posted October 9, 2023 Alter Bridge, the shit band who do Edge's shit music, used to be the shit band Creed and formed when the shit lead singer left. They got a new shit singer in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, gmoney said: Alter Bridge, the shit band who do Edge's shit music, used to be the shit band Creed and formed when the shit lead singer left. They got a new shit singer in. This brings tears to my eyes.... jap's eyes...     Edited October 9, 2023 by Loki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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