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19 minutes ago, TheBurningRed said:

The Sabre incident is the fact he’s remained silent since last summer on all the accusations against his mates. And the fact he is/was sponsored by SPLX which one of the accused runs. 

To be fair to Sabre I'd keep as far away from that topic as humanly possible. I guess the question is can you seperate business dealings from personal behaviours of the alleged perp? I'm a tad more Liberal when money is concerned in the sense that I'd only stop working w an individual who is convicted or where there is undisputable evidence (i.e texts apologising, pics or videos implicating, multiple witnesses to the events etc) 

I guess each is to their own but I'd certainly be reluctant to demand he make a statement. Esp given how many others who actively knew people were doing shitty things stayed silent (i.e businesses, Hollywood, politics etc). He probably wouldn't be on my grievance shit list. 

That's not to say people shouldn't be held to account for their shitty behaviour, just that guilt by association isn't all that reasonable in some instances. 

 

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With ZSJ, it's more a feeling of massive disappointment and frustration rather than one of anger. He was prepared to be as outspoken as possible when it came to politics, animal cruelty and social issues but he hasn't touched his social media accounts ever since Speaking Out brought up a boatload of allegations against his mates and peers. Not a fucking peep from the man whose entrance music on the indie scene was 'Mother' by IDLES, which includes lyrics like;

"Sexual violence doesn't start and end with rape
It starts in our books and behind our school gates
Men are scared women will laugh in their face
Whereas women are scared it's their lives men will take".

As I said, it's very disappointing and disheartening but looking back with hindsight I can't say I'm surprised anymore. 

 

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18 minutes ago, Accident Prone said:

With ZSJ, it's more a feeling of massive disappointment and frustration rather than one of anger. He was prepared to be as outspoken as possible when it came to politics, animal cruelty and social issues but he hasn't touched his social media accounts ever since Speaking Out brought up a boatload of allegations against his mates and peers. Not a fucking peep from the man whose entrance music on the indie scene was 'Mother' by IDLES, which includes lyrics like;

"Sexual violence doesn't start and end with rape
It starts in our books and behind our school gates
Men are scared women will laugh in their face
Whereas women are scared it's their lives men will take".

As I said, it's very disappointing and disheartening but looking back with hindsight I can't say I'm surprised anymore. 

 

Ah that makes more sense now. 

I guess he probably doesn't want or need any attention on him. Whilst that's pretty cowardly it's also understandable given how careers can get ended w a few I'll thought out tweets. 

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36 minutes ago, Michael_3165 said:

I'm a tad more Liberal when money is concerned in the sense that I'd only stop working w an individual who is convicted or where there is undisputable evidence (i.e texts apologising, pics or videos implicating, multiple witnesses to the events etc) 

The best thing about this is that you almost never have to consider it as an issue this way.

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2 minutes ago, Chris B said:

The best thing about this is that you almost never have to consider it as an issue this way.

Oh don't get me wrong it's a huge issue in society and I work w the after effects in my daily work. It destroys lives and causes misery to whole families. At the same time I also come across prob more than the average of people who later say they didnt actually experience things quite as they initially implied. So I do have a unique view on this that maybe the average person won't see. 

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Scrull I imagine will get a gig with NJPW. But he’s out of NJPW Strong. The Japanese have much less of an issue with what he’s done (and I found out the age of consent in Japan is a fucking creepy 13, the weird fucks). Nobuniro Watsuki is a famous Manga artist, arrested for child porn but was welcomed back to the manga world. If they think he’ll draw, they’ll have him. And he’s not going to get work in the states now.

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Well, fuck that. Going to be taking a break from New Japan then. 

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On 3/1/2021 at 1:32 PM, Chris B said:

I'm somewhat nervous that Will Ospreay will be a finalist/win, because he's really not someone I want to watch. With talk of Marty Scurll turning up too over in Strong, I'm really pissed off with NJPW over all this. 

So, not only did they put Ospreay over, they topped it off with a domestic violence angle where he attacked Bea Priestley, and apparently included 'welcome to the single life' in his post-match promo.

This is, of course, weeks after trying to sneak in Marty Scurll.

Taking a break from my New Japan subscription while they're sticking him in the main event. 

 

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5 hours ago, Chris B said:

Well, fuck that. Going to be taking a break from New Japan then. 

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So, not only did they put Ospreay over, they topped it off with a domestic violence angle where he attacked Bea Priestley, and apparently included 'welcome to the single life' in his post-match promo.

This is, of course, weeks after trying to sneak in Marty Scurll.

Taking a break from my New Japan subscription while they're sticking him in the main event. 

 

Glad I sacked New Japan off again after Kingdom.

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On 3/3/2021 at 12:01 PM, unfitfinlay said:

the Dragon Gate animal abuse scandal

I absolutely want to hear no details about this, but just from what you posted, that is completely, unforgivably awful. Fuck all of them and any company who employs them.

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