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Game of Thrones - Season EIGHT (No book wankers)


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I’ve slept on it. I still think it went to tits on a tinwhistle after Jon stabbed Dany. 

But, I’m not against where the Stark kids ended up per se - I just think Bran is such an unnatural fit for the Throne. Though I’m probably being influenced by how much I can’t stand the face of the actor who plays him.

Do we think the Nights Watch was a ruse all along and Jon was actually going North of the wall to live with his mates? ...or is he going rogue and fleeing? Or was he just escorting them north before heading back?

I do find it strange how little fantasy elements were used in the ending. Arya can wear faces... unimportant. Bran can warg into things... unimportant. You’d have thought they’d have used their superpowers a bit more.

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2 minutes ago, d-d-d-dAz said:

Do we think the Nights Watch was a ruse all along and Jon was actually going North of the wall to live with his mates? ...or is he going rogue and fleeing? Or was he just escorting them north before heading back?

I took it as the Night's Watch's job now is to resettle all those Wildings, and Jon was off to do that and make a life for himself with them.

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I was half expecting someone to send Jon to go and watch the part of the wall with a big hole in it with the instructions "Don't run off, I'll be back in 10 minutes *wink wink*" His ending was typical of a protagonist who's done and seen too much to go back to his normal life so has to leave and find peace so in that respect it was completely fine. He no doubt would have went that way given the choice any how. 

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I kind of took it that they almost "duped" Grey Worm. They sent Jon back to the Nights Watch - and I was immediately thinking; "Sure whats left of the Nights Watch?" Without a Wall to man anymore, is there even a Nights Watch left? The editing around that was kind of weird, because at first I thought Jon was going to have to go back to the bottom of the rung of whatever is left of a Nights Watch, eat some humble pie for a while. However, when he got there, it almost appeared like he was back to being The Lord Commander of the Nights Watch again. Then we get the shot of him leading the Wildlings north - was this an escort mission or was he fucking off with them? I like that it was a little ambiguous; but having said that I would have liked it to just be a touch clearer on what was happening. 

Speaking of Wildlings north of the wall - didnt they get given "The Gift" as an area for them to live in, land to farm etc?

Also, was the only reason Bran told Jon his true lineage was so Jon would fuck up his relationship with Dany and pave the way for Bran to be King? He surely saw all this coming, right?

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45 minutes ago, Astro Hollywood said:

I took it as the Night's Watch's job now is to resettle all those Wildings, and Jon was off to do that and make a life for himself with them.

Yep. That would make sense and tie in with Jon’s comment that there’s isn’t a Night’s Watch anymore, if it was just an official wat of saying, ‘off you go, stay out of the way, don’t come back please’. With Scotland/The North now independent, it’d be weird the other Six Kingdoms sending all their prisoners through the seventh to lock them up - though Castle Black functioning as a big prison kind of works. The tiny bits of green poking out north of the Wall works for Jon and a Tormund resettling the Free Folk in a land that might no longer be Always Winter without the White Walkers. Could turn out quite nice up there.

 

Overall I’m quite happy with that finale. A few moments of ‘hmm’ but for the most part I was really satisfied. And Ghost got his cuddle for being a good boy. Who couldn’t love that?

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I always assumed Bran could see potential futures as opposed to what will definitely happen.

That is why I never got too bothered by his seeming lack of intetest, he subtly guides people as opposed to outright telling them what to do. 

Look at the Theon in the Godswood as his guardian. Bran may have known Theon needed to be there but not why, we know now that Theon bought Arya the time to get to the woods to kill the Nights King. 

 

 

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One weird thing though; winter never really came, did it? The changing season is this big looming thing in the books and the show, and we're told about winters that could last a decade with 10-feet snowdrifts. S7 was delayed because they had to wait for summer to end in the places they shoot, but all we really got was a few flakes in King's Landing in the S7 finale, and the snows during Stannis' seige in S5, which was in the north anyway. By the end of the finale, there's not a flake to be seen anywhere south of the Wall.

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17 minutes ago, Astro Hollywood said:

One weird thing though; winter never really came, did it? The changing season is this big looming thing in the books and the show, and we're told about winters that could last a decade with 10-feet snowdrifts. S7 was delayed because they had to wait for summer to end in the places they shoot, but all we really got was a few flakes in King's Landing in the S7 finale, and the snows during Stannis' seige in S5, which was in the north anyway. By the end of the finale, there's not a flake to be seen anywhere south of the Wall.

Early in the last episode, I had to be quietly reminded "that's not snow" in King's Landing.

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4 minutes ago, JNLister said:

Were the any bookies taking bets on who ends up sitting on the Iron Throne? Be a good laugh if they don't have to pay out to anyone.

Some were, but I can’t recall which ones. The ones I did see had Bran at quite short odds, but there were about 5 other main characters with similar odds

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But could they get out of paying on the technicality that the Iron Throne has been destroyed and therefore nobody sits on it?

3 minutes ago, WyattSheepMask said:

Some were, but I can’t recall which ones. The ones I did see had Bran at quite short odds, but there were about 5 other main characters with similar odds

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8 hours ago, JohnnyChimpo said:

But could they get out of paying on the technicality that the Iron Throne has been destroyed and therefore nobody sits on it?

Depends how much you want to/are prepared to argue with them. I had a bet at my local BetFred at 6/1 that Michael Jackson would perform 5 or less of his O2 Arena residency. After 40 minutes back & forth of “0 is less than 5”, “but he hasn’t performed any, so the bet is void” and “so you admit that if nothing has happened, that is less than 5 things having happened”, I left with my £35 winnings and they asked me politely to never come back

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