Factotum Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, mim731 said: Or people are just allowed to have different opinions on Punk's importance in wrestling history. I think the months buzz and that entrance shows they're not very comparable. And I like Christian! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mim731 said: Or people are just allowed to have different opinions on Punk's importance in wrestling history. I’d argue it’s empirical fact that CM Punk is a bigger deal than Christian both now and throughout wrestling history - particularly as a singles attraction. You can probably quantify that in money earned in contracts, viewership, time spent on top. Loads of different things I guess. Or you could just watch last night. Not liking Punk is absolutely fine. To be the one lone voice today saying last night was fine and Punk is an equivalent signing to Christian - particularly after watching last night - isn’t an opinion. It’s being obstinate in the face of actual evidence. Edited August 21, 2021 by d-d-d-dAz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gaffer Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 They've both come in alternating shades of jaundice over the years, although one of them tans for the privilege. That's about the best comparison I can go for right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members mim731 Posted August 21, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, d-d-d-dAz said: Not liking Punk is absolutely fine. To be the one lone voice today saying last night was fine and Punk is an equivalent signing to Christian - particularly after watching last night - isn’t an opinion. It’s being obstinate in the face of actual evidence. Nope, that is still very much an opinion, and my having a different opinion to yours need not impede your enjoyment. It's ok for people to have different perspectives. Edited August 21, 2021 by mim731 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, mim731 said: Nope, that is still very much an opinion. It really isn’t. Social media figures alone will tell you that last night was a bigger deal. ESPN have covered it, it’s been on SportsCenter. SportBible are running with it. It’s everywhere. It’s quantifiably already had a bigger impact than signing Christian. But whatever. You’re being a pointless joy sucker. If you saw last night and thought ‘same as Christian, this’ I genuinely feel sorry for you. Poor lamb. I’m off to watch it again. Edited August 21, 2021 by d-d-d-dAz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Christian always looks miserable. I'm glad Punk actually looked happy and proper emotional last night. He must have played that scenario out SO many times in his head over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Think we need Grandpa Simpson in a dress to solve this Punk/Christian debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members garynysmon Posted August 21, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted August 21, 2021 I prefer Christian as both a wrestler and a person, and was chuffed to see him back on Impact this week. But C'mon, that doesn't mean you can't acknowledge that all considered, Punk coming back is a much, much bigger deal and will be viewed as a massive coup for the company. That absence and the mystique surrounding his much publicised departure, yet his fanbase never gave up on him. It would be ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members mim731 Posted August 21, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted August 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, d-d-d-dAz said: But whatever. You’re being a pointless joy sucker. Again, my having a different perspective shouldn't impede your enjoyment. It's not even that I said it was shite, I just didn't think it was a triumph necessarily. I thought beyond the pop (which I stated made for a lovely moment) it wasn't necessarily mind-blowing, just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakashi Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 I think Christian is a better wrestler than Punk but post pipe bomb Punk was a bigger star than Christian had ever been or will ever be. Punk coming back is huge, mainly because most people didn’t ever think it would happen. Christian, a comedy wwe mid carder, joining AEW to general indifference and disappointment isn’t comparable in any way. Also, I’m glad Punk was happy. It seemed he really had the love sucked out of him after he quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-d-d-dAz Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Just now, Yakashi said: I think Christian is a better wrestler than Punk but post pipe bomb Punk was a bigger star than Christian had ever been or will ever be. Punk coming back is huge, mainly because most people didn’t ever think it would happen. Christian, a comedy wwe mid carder, joining AEW to general indifference and disappointment isn’t comparable in any way. Also, I’m glad Punk was happy. It seemed he really had the love sucked out of him after he quit. I think that’s what made it extra special. Punk was as happy to see them as they were him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Yakashi said: Also, I’m glad Punk was happy. It seemed he really had the love sucked out of him after he quit. I can't help but think of all the wrestlers watching that last night and seeing the genuine joy from Punk and the crowd and wanting to be a part of that. There must be so many in NXT and WWE that are now seriously thinking about their options. Who wouldn't want to be a part of something like that? There's a few that I'm sure are happy with their positions but many that are now thinking they could do a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Factotum Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Yakashi said: I think Christian is a better wrestler Where is this train coming from? Christian's even making this boring! And again, I like Christian! Edited August 21, 2021 by Factotum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL Punk Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 The promo wasn't quite The Pipebomb I expected but it's been ten years since then and Punk has changed. But that pop, so loud that you couldn't hear Punk's Theme...wow. Okay, I didn't have the goosebumps that Taz had but then again, I didn't stay up to watch it live, I just watched it on youtube. Glad to see him back, glad to see that he's happy and I'll probably start watching AEW again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Fatty Facesitter Posted August 21, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) Perfection. Didn’t think that sort of pop was possible in 2021. Glad they waited for a full house in Chicago. Mentioning Britt and Darby in his promo was a great touch - right out of the gate he’s highlighting two of AEW’s most prominent home-grown (in a manner of speaking) talents. The ice cream was another masterstroke from them. Simple, yet effective shit like that made the moment all the more special, and another fuck you to WWE. The key for how this moment is remembered though will be in the follow-up - although it doesn’t feel like it presently while everyone’s caught up in the hysteria, they need to capitalise on this and Punk needs to be able to hang in the ring. It’ll only take a couple of stinkers for the momentum to shift from delirious excitement to an all-time let down. But all signs point to good times ahead presently. Huge potential matchups across the board, not just physically but verbally - the Punk/MJF verbal exchanges could be phenomenal if they paired up. Edited August 21, 2021 by Fatty Facesitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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