Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted March 27, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted March 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, wordsfromlee said: Is that the genuine name of the movie? Are they purposely trying to make more work for themselves? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Anyone watching Falcon and the Winter Soldier? I’ve enjoyed the first two episodes. I’m not big in to Anthony Mackie who seems like a capable actor but a bit of a charisma vacuum however I like the extra layers they’re giving him even if Marvel handling racism in America is about as subtle as a brick. Interested to see what they do with Wyatt Russell too. I like him as off-brand cap and with super serum knocking about there’s some possibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, Mr_Danger said: Anyone watching Falcon and the Winter Soldier? I’ve enjoyed the first two episodes. I’m not big in to Anthony Mackie who seems like a capable actor but a bit of a charisma vacuum however I like the extra layers they’re giving him even if Marvel handling racism in America is about as subtle as a brick. Interested to see what they do with Wyatt Russell too. I like him as off-brand cap and with super serum knocking about there’s some possibilities. Yeah I've really enjoyed the first two episodes. Far more traditional Marvel than WandaVision really but that's okay. Suits these characters more. Nice to slow the pace down a bit and get some more insight into them after the huge events that happened before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrodyGraham Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I'm enjoying it loads but then the Captain America films are probably my favourite corner of the MCU. The things that I'm enjoying most are the deeper dive into the characters but mostly the lore. My wife hates it for the exact same reasons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathrey Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 I watched the first episode and didn't like it, I watched the second one and enjoyed it a lot more. More Bucky please. I hate the new Captain America, I really really hope he doesn't stick around too long. I want to punch him the face. His sidekick seems more palatable. I've started watching the Snyder cut of Justice League, we are about half way through it. Its marginally better than the other version but not much so far. It makes a lot more sense as everything is more fleshed out but good God some of the dialogue is so so cheesy, and parts of the slow-mo filming make me feel like I'm watching a telenovela. Overall I feel this will be a wasted 4 hours but I don't have much better to do when my baby is napping so I'll watch it till the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Lorne Malvo Posted March 28, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) I'm really enjoying the performances in Falcon & Winter Soldier, and I'm liking how it gives us more time exploring Sam and Bucky beyond just being Steves mates. But the actual storytelling is so clunky it keeps pulling me out of it. @Mr_Danger Wash that Anthony Mackie diss out of your mouth! Edited March 28, 2021 by Lorne Malvo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 7 hours ago, Lorne Malvo said: @Mr_Danger Wash that Anthony Mackie diss out of your mouth! It’s not a diss so much as I just don’t buy him as a leading man. They’ve done a good job of covering up his lack of charisma thus far though. A career on the upper mid card awaits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CavemanLynn Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I don't know what version of Falcon and the Winter Soldier you're watching, but Mackie's the only thing holding this slog together. We're persevering because we're MCU completists, but this show cookie cutter and tonally all over the place. Bad buddy cop movie, socio-political commentary, MCU-lite - it has scenes and lines in totally different styles and tones banging into each other, without the incident, intrigue or wit to paper over the joins. What's worse is that, for a show promoted on addressing race and symbolism, they've given Mackie absolutely nothing to work with. Hell, they gave him Captain Osiris' back story from Tropic Thunder. At times, it feels like someone watched 48 Hrs and rather than seeing two chalk and cheese characters solving a thrilling case, they went to Stan and Mackie and said, "OK, so you're Nick Nolte, and you're... (Peter Griffin voice) A Black Guy." It's now about 90 minutes (ie a movie) into the series, and I'm still not sure who the antagonists are, what the goal is, and what the stakes are. There's been lots of name checking and character work, but it's all talk. Isaiah Bradley's story could've been a whole flashback or even an entire episode, so we can experience the horrors he went through, but instead we got a single line of dialogue (albeit acted at 150% capacity by a brilliant Carl Lumbly) and then straight onto a BIG ISSUE scene of systemic racism. The fact I rolled my eyes at a scene depicting a very real social injustice is a very bad thing. Longstanding characters make very dumb choices, as if decades of their lives never happened. People casually taunt killing machines strapped to weapons of mass destruction. Former enemies of the state can stroll into secure government facilities whenever they want, and contractors can whizz off in military aircraft for unauthorised side quests. Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn prove that two gorgeous parents can produce one ugly kid. It's everything the Netflix shows were criticized for, but on a better budget with Feige's name on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I dunno about all that, you have a point but my Marvel bar is pretty low to start with. As I said the race stuff is heavy handed but I’m not expecting kids super hero stuff to make me stop and think. Its just part of Falcon’s build to being the new Captain America which will be pretty shit and I’d much prefer he did his own thing. Bucky is the more compelling character but it’s not like Sebastian Stan is pulling up any three’s in the leading man category so for them both to come across as a bigger deal than they are in this is a pleasant surprise. It’s Saturday morning fluff. The impromptu couples therapy was wank though and I agree with that aspect being cringingly forced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I never really watched the Netflix shows so not too aware of the criticisms but I've not had any issues with the show. Neither are particularly characters I've been that fussed about previously but I'm enjoying the extra time with them and feel like I'm getting some good insight into where they are, how the bigger picture issues have impacted them and their own personal issues too. Is it a subtle top notch character driven drama? No, but I never expected it to be either. So it's enjoyable enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members BomberPat Posted March 28, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted March 28, 2021 I've found it very dull and heavy-handed so far. The relationship between Falcon and Winter Soldier just isn't remotely believable, there's no sense of them having any shared experience beforehand - and, from the movies, they really don't have any, they haven't earned the relationship as they're trying to depict it, and it's full of forced Marvel sub-Whedon "witty banter". There's potential for good stories to be told with the characters they're setting up in the early going, but it's a slog getting there, and it's hard to get invested in the characterisation when you know the only likely pay-off is a final episode extended CGI fight scene the same as every Marvel third act yet, including Wandavision. The only good thing is that the new Captain America is a very convincing smarmy prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyattSheepMask Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I didn’t see Birds of Prey, partly because I imagine it was as awful as the first Suicide Squad, but is “because random” the entire scope of Harley Quinn’s character now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Danger Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Struggling to get through the Snyder Cut. I’ve tapped out at the part they decide to resurrect Supeman. It’s infinitely more watchable than its original incarnation but there’s a bit that sums up my thoughts where they make a torch and it shows individual shots of the process, stick, rag, oil, matches, light it. Probably would have made a decent 2 hour film if someone else edited it funnily enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paid Members Hannibal Scorch Posted March 29, 2021 Paid Members Share Posted March 29, 2021 42 minutes ago, Mr_Danger said: Struggling to get through the Snyder Cut. I’ve tapped out at the part they decide to resurrect Supeman. It’s infinitely more watchable than its original incarnation but there’s a bit that sums up my thoughts where they make a torch and it shows individual shots of the process, stick, rag, oil, matches, light it. Probably would have made a decent 2 hour film if someone else edited it funnily enough. it's the last hour that ramps it up, but I am 100% in agreement that just because you have enough footage for a 4 hour film, doesn't mean you should have a 4 hour cut of a film. It would of made a fine 4 part tv series, but would have made a great 2 hour film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB6937 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Yeah I definitely found it too long unfortunately. There's a good film in there somewhere. My friend's argument for it being that long was 'well the last Avengers was long too!' but Justice League never earnt that type of pay off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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